Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Hey Guys,...I was hoping someone could kindly help to date my old Fender amp..... It's a Blackface Vibro Champ (photos below...) and have no idea what year she's was made. I'm assuming it's a 60's model but I guess she could possibly be a re-issue...I have no idea... Would greatly appreciate any help with establish a year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 The date code on the tube sticker indicates June of 1966. See Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 The date code on the tube sticker indicates June of 1966. See Here. Thanks for confirming that. Much appreciated.... There are so many different reference numbers on these amps that I wasn't sure where to start.... I guess the speaker is an after market mod. I wonder what speakers these guys originally came with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Why don't you just buy her a drink and start a casual conversation? Be yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Why don't you just buy her a drink and start a casual conversation? Be yourself... Huhhh?? Que Pasa???? Translation please? Heheee,..I forgot how quality your name is,... Is your Brother called ShreddyMercury? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Why don't you just buy her a drink and start a casual conversation? Be yourself... See, this is what I get for not being quicker on the draw, you beat me to it..... [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Huhhh?? Que Pasa???? Translation please? Heheee,..I forgot how quality your name is,... Is your Brother called ShreddyMercury? :lol: Haha yes. I was giving you some dating advice. :) And I have a few brothers.....ShreddyMercury, ShredSavage, ShredCouples, ShredFlintstone etc... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 See, this is what I get for not being quicker on the draw, you beat me to it..... [lol] OK, OK....it was pretty funny and has now been amended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 The transformer code is also '66 (3rd week). The original speaker in this amp was probably an Oxford (465). The speaker will also have a mfg/date code on it somewhere. Sometime in the early 60's, Fender changed speaker suppliers from Jensen (220) to Oxford, and then to Rola (285) in the 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 The transformer code is also '66 (3rd week). The original speaker in this amp was probably an Oxford (465). The speaker will also have a mfg/date code on it somewhere. Sometime in the early 60's, Fender changed speaker suppliers from Jensen (220) to Oxford, and then to Rola (285) in the 70's. Thanks Larry,..sounds like you know your Fender amps!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Why do you think the speaker is aftermarket? It looks real clean, and I wouldn't be surprised if even the tubes were the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Why do you think the speaker is aftermarket? Because I've never seen or even heard of a Quam speaker in a Fender vintage amp. Jusr the Jensen's and Oxfords..... Hell,.. I've never even heard of the Quam Speaker brand before I bought this amp???? Have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 From the speaker photo, I see numbers stamped on the basket, what are they? I doubt "Quan" is a manufacturer, the numbers will tell who actually made the speaker (and when). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krock Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Quam has been around since 1930 and are still business today.....out of Chicago. This thread shows that others have had quam speakers in their champs aswell http://www.tdpri.com...eplacement.html edit: while doing some research on it I also found your old thread based on this amp from around a year ago http://forum.gibson....66-vibro-champ/ On this date your fender amp website http://www.hendrixgu...FendAmpDate.htm quam is briefly mentioned as having the code 270which your seems to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 From the speaker photo, I see numbers stamped on the basket, what are they? I doubt "Quan" is a manufacturer, the numbers will tell who actually made the speaker (and when). Here's whats on the speaker Larry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Quam has been around since 1930 and are still business today.....out of Chicago. This thread shows that others have had quam speakers in their champs aswell http://www.tdpri.com...eplacement.html edit: while doing some research on it I also found your old thread based on this amp from around a year ago http://forum.gibson....66-vibro-champ/ On this date your fender amp website http://www.hendrixgu...FendAmpDate.htm quam is briefly mentioned as having the code 270which your seems to have Thanks for that Krock.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 quam is briefly mentioned as having the code 270which your seems to have Yep.... Just checked my reference chart, "270" = Quam-Nichols. It is still my opinion that THIS speaker is not original to this amp. Depending on how you interpret the date code, it was either made during the 2nd week of 1981, or the 12th week of some year that ended in an "8", either way it does not fall into the 6/66 assembly date on the tube chart. It is my experience that the year is generally two digits, and 1-9 weeks of the year MAY NOT be two digits starting with "0", but just the one digit (1-9). PS: Krock, some great info on the links you posted above, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyMoon Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Haha yes. I was giving you some dating advice. :) And I have a few brothers.....ShreddyMercury, ShredSavage, ShredCouples, ShredFlintstone etc... :) as long as he's not Shred Bundy then we're safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Yep.... Just checked my reference chart, "270" = Quam-Nichols. It is still my opinion that THIS speaker is not original to this amp. Depending on how you interpret the date code, it was either made during the 2nd week of 1981, or the 12th week of some year that ended in an "8", either way it does not fall into the 6/66 assembly date on the tube chart. It is my experience that the year is generally two digits, and 1-9 weeks of the year MAY NOT be two digits starting with "0", but just the one digit (1-9). PS: Krock, some great info on the links you posted above, thanks. Thankyou to both Krock and Larry! Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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