Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I went to another car boot sale today to see what I could find and found this which I bartered down from £60 to £20 :) lol I had no idea what it was, it was a bit of a punt.. But I thought hey, it says Marshall on the front and "made in England" on the back how bad can it be for £20... But I now have two issues... A, I don't have a speaker cab to test it out on (the light came on when I plugged it in and no smoke came out) B, and if you check the pics, the screws on the back have now been well screwed lol. I tried to undo them and they just mushed so im not sure what to do about that now (maybe drill them out?) So here it is.. See what you think. Its a 2195 Solid State (boo, why couldn't it have been a tube ) And this is what happened when I tried to unscrew it :o So I have done some searching.. Some say its good, some say its crap (as usual :)) But I trust what you guys say.. heres a vid I found Then I saw this link where someone had turned one into a tube amp (hows that done then? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Respect! I'll give ya $40 for it!! A good trick for those screws before you start drilling them is to try to use a pair of ViceGrip pliers to grip the sides and try to carefully back it out. It's a tedious chore but it can work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Respect! I'll give ya $40 for it!! A good trick for those screws before you start drilling them is to try to use a pair of ViceGrip pliers to grip the sides and try to carefully back it out. It's a tedious chore but it can work. Yeah I had thought of that, but all my tools are at my workshop (garage :)) so I will grab some when im there tomorrow and give that a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Very nice, Why are you trying to open it? curiosity or are you trying to fix it or clean it? The tube conversion sounds great, very nice Yngwie sound and the guy is obviously a fan but I wonder how much it costs to convert an amp, my understanding is that you cannot use the same transformers and then if you add the tubes you are essentially gutting the amp and making a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Its a 2195 Solid State (boo, why couldn't it have been a tube ) Because it would have to be a lot larger and it would not have been £20 But that's a nice score regardless. If the distortion is not pleasing just play it clean and use pedals. Prolly make a cracking good bass amp too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Very nice, Why are you trying to open it? curiosity or are you trying to fix it or clean it? The tube conversion sounds great, very nice Yngwie sound and the guy is obviously a fan but I wonder how much it costs to convert an amp, my understanding is that you cannot use the same transformers and then if you add the tubes you are essentially gutting the amp and making a new one. Yeah just to have a look inside and see what I got and what the state of everything is inside it.. Really I got it just to try and re-sell it on (im sure I will get more than £20 (well that's what I hoped anyway) :unsure: I don't need a big head with a speaker.... Even if its the most amazing amp in the world I have a tiny 1 bed flat and don't even have the room for it let alone the space to use a 100w head :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well, 100 watts at 4ohms and it is solid state, that translates to something like a 5watt tube amp I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Because it would have to be a lot larger and it would not have been £20 But that's a nice score regardless. If the distortion is not pleasing just play it clean and use pedals. Prolly make a cracking good bass amp too. Well its from the 70s, so I can sell it as a vintage Marshall (solid state) :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Very good score for sure… You can use it as your amp, for testing your guitars or as a spare amp head… You never know when you might need one or for what reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well its from the 70s, so I can sell it as a vintage Marshall (solid state) :P True. They were only made between 1976 and 1980, and they are not very common. You should be able to double your money (but that's about it). The last one that sold on eBay UK went £39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 What would happen if I tried to plug its output into the input of my practice amp? (just to see if it works) or is that a VREY bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan H Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I went to another car boot sale today... :P -Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan H Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 What would happen if I tried to plug its output into the input of my practice amp? (just to see if it works) or is that a VREY bad idea? VERY bad idea. -Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 :P -Ryan Haha, lol.. its cos everyone sells from their cars boots (sort of) :) As opposed to a garage sale, which happens in front of your garage like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 VERY bad idea. -Ryan Yeah I thought as much.. just checking ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 What would happen if I tried to plug its output into the input of my practice amp? (just to see if it works) or is that a VREY bad idea? That's called slaving. Since both amps are solid state nothing bad would happen, but it'll likely sound like a$$. The input of your guitar amp is made for instrument level signal not the hot signal the output of the 2195 would be sending it. A better arrangement is using the Marshall as a power amp and taking a slave signal from a good lower powered amp like that Slash combo you are looking at. You can a run something like a Red Box between the Slash and it's speaker and pull the slave from that into the big Marshall which then acts basically like a power amp. Of course you'd need a cab for that 2195 head. I used to slave like this a lot in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yeah I thought as much.. just checking ;) But if the ohms are the same you could wire it to the speaker on your practice amp though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 That's called slaving. Since both amps are solid state nothing bad would happen, but it'll likely sound like a$$. The input of your guitar amp is made for instrument level signal not the hot signal the output of the 2195 would be sending it. A better arrangement is using the Marshall as a power amp and taking a slave signal from a good lower powered amp like that Slash combo you are looking at. You can a run something like a Red Box between the Slash and it's speaker and pull the slave from that into the big Marshall which then acts basically like a power amp. Of course you'd need a cab for that 2195 head. I used to slave like this a lot in the 80s. Well I just want to check that it makes some noise and works really, I didn't expect it to sound good :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 But if the ohms are the same you could wire it to the speaker on your practice amp though. Speaker looks like this... means very little to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan H Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Speaker looks like this... means very little to me The speaker is 8 ohms, probably rated for 15 or 20 watts since this is a SS amp... Your new head puts out 65 watts at 8 ohms. I mean, you could probably plug it in if you were Really careful and kept the volume on the amp at whisper levels, just to see if it works...but any louder and you'll probably blow the speaker. -Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 The speaker is 8 ohms, probably rated for 15 or 20 watts since this is a SS amp... Your new head puts out 65 watts at 8 ohms. I mean, you could probably plug it in if you were Really careful and kept the volume on the amp at whisper levels, just to see if it works...but any louder and you'll probably blow the speaker. -Ryan So im assuming to use it properly I would need something like this? http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/guitars/guitar-amps/87579-marshall-mx112-guitar-speaker-cab-75w-1x12-/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=base&gclid=CNfo3peC5r8CFazItAodCFcAuw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 The speaker is 8 ohms, probably rated for 15 or 20 watts since this is a SS amp... Your new head puts out 65 watts at 8 ohms. I mean, you could probably plug it in if you were Really careful and kept the volume on the amp at whisper levels, just to see if it works...but any louder and you'll probably blow the speaker. -Ryan Ok I did it :) (couldn't stand not knowing) and heres the results.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpZbWbyctq4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The speaker is 8 ohms, probably rated for 15 or 20 watts since this is a SS amp... Your new head puts out 65 watts at 8 ohms. I mean, you could probably plug it in if you were Really careful and kept the volume on the amp at whisper levels, just to see if it works...but any louder and you'll probably blow the speaker. -Ryan All in all you did good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Made in India! Be very careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Now you need one of these cool 4-10 cabs. They are pretty cheap if you can find one around locally. It would be the perfect cab for that head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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