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#1 User is offline   scriv58 

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 01:38 PM

Considering that the torrefaction thread raised some thought and debate, i felt it was incumbent upon me to throw this left-handed monkey wrench into the works. Here for your consideration and amusement, i have assembled 6 sound tracks, 3 with the 2016 j45 vintage, and 3 with the 1946 southern jumbo. They were recorded in exact same conditions (seating, microphone placement, preamp and computer settings) with same string brand and gauge (only days apart on the guitars).
Tracks 1,3,5 are one guitar, and tracks 2,4,6 are the other guitar. Set 1 and 2 are the key of G, set 3 and 4 in the key of C, set 5 and 6 in the key of Em, each set being the same little nugget ditty played as similarly as I could. I tried to play in a slower tempo to allow for a bit of overtone. Just thrashing away for 60 seconds into an ipad does not a discernible audition make. I kept them brief to allow for our short attention span mentality of this the spaced age.
So listen (hopefully not on laptop speakers, lest I sound like AM radio circa 1961) and decide which is the torrified wood and which is the old wood. I've already forgotten...(just kidding)
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Here is the grandbaby and the grandpa 70 years apart

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 03:36 PM

Great test, and really nice playing!

The guitars sound remarkably similar, so that one could be the other recorded with slightly aged strings.

Can't pretend to know which is which. 1,3,and 5 have a slightly brighter edge, just a tiny bit more clarity and articulation. 2,4, and 6 are a bit more rounded, smoother.

I actually prefer 1,3,5, and I'm guessing (literally) that those are the new guitar. One could argue that with more clarity and articulation, 1,3,5 would be the old guitar, but my experience with new Gibsons is that lots of them are really, really good. Vintage guitars vary.

For tone, I like 1,3, 5. For looks, I love the '46 SG, but I'm a sucker for older ladies with beautiful mature looks and a few miles on them. (Probably best not to tell my wife that, although she might take it as a left-handed compliment.)

Speaking of left handed, you've got your strings on backwards, and your saddles run the wrong way. [biggrin]
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 04:12 PM

I agree with Nick. 1, 3 & 5 has the brighter edge. I preferredrounder sounding 2,4, & 6 except on the second cut. BTW nice playing.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:58 PM

Yes.........the odd numbered takes have a livelier sound, brighter and more biting........the Vintage model......and that makes the even numbered tracks the old SJ.......warmer, smoother, less "in your face".

Well done, sir.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:19 PM

Very nice! I'm also in the odd numbers camp.But I don't know if that is vintage or cooked.
Really liked the Em - Rev Gary Davis sounds.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 05:33 AM

This is great, Scriv! Thanks ☺️

1,3 & 5 are the 46, by my reckoning, and the even numbers are the 16.

Both sound great, but the evens sound nicest to my ears. Really crisp and strident!
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 07:31 AM

The one time I was able to play a Vintage, I was amazed at how close the sound resembled my old j45. Never played them side by side which might have helped in this quiz. I thought at the time the newer Vintage had a bit of a rawness which I hear in 2-4-6.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:03 AM

1,3,5 sound like the Vintage I own.

I sure like old and all SJs.

Nice playing on both!



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 04:29 AM

ok 8 days later 333 views 7 replies this thread is rapidly sinking like a stone- shall i post the answer before the tumbleweeds completely take over?
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Posted 14 October 2017 - 04:59 AM

I'm going even = new! And yes a thumbs up on the playing flair Scriv
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 07:25 PM

Resurrecting this thread from the land of "who gives a s%#t anyway?" the answers were:
samples 1,3,5 1946 southern jumbo
samples 2,4,6 2016 j45 vintage.
I'll do my best to scrounge up another snooze-fest thread sometime this year.
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 08:10 PM

View Postscriv58, on 01 January 2018 - 07:25 PM, said:

Resurrecting this thread from the land of "who gives a s%#t anyway?" the answers were:
samples 1,3,5 1946 southern jumbo
samples 2,4,6 2016 j45 vintage.
I'll do my best to scrounge up another snooze-fest thread sometime this year.


So much for my carefully-tuned ear. I did prefer 1,3,5, but actually thought that was the new guitar.

Vintage Gibsons rule! Age matters.
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 05:37 AM

I'm simply not good at those A/B things.

I'll like them both, change my mind, get into an argument with myself, try headphones, then Bose, then desktop speakers, then burn a cd and take it to my stereo, try it over the phone and stuff until I simply can't do it anymore.

Wait.

Sal was right !
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Posted 04 January 2018 - 08:22 AM

View PostMurph, on 02 January 2018 - 05:37 AM, said:

I'm simply not good at those A/B things.

I'll like them both, change my mind, get into an argument with myself, try headphones, then Bose, then desktop speakers, then burn a cd and take it to my stereo, try it over the phone and stuff until I simply can't do it anymore.

Wait.

Sal was right !


it is hard to tell for me as well- that j45 vintage will be some guitar in future decades, when it is truly vintage.
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Posted 06 January 2018 - 05:44 PM

http://phenomena.nat...ones-round-two/
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