Izzy Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 This is not the best pic and I know you gotta open 'er up to know for sure, but as a guess... What pup is the bridge (rail HB)? Guesses on the neck welcome but that could be anything.... It is a moded old mustang, both pups were switched god only knows what else. The neck does seem short scale, though. I know Mustangs suck (surfpup) but I spent two hours playing my very comfortable Strat last night on the leg, with strap, on the other leg....seriously, I need a break and this may be a fun, cheap solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 That looks like a Squier neck, I had a Mustang back in the 80s and this looks different. But, I believe there are Mustangs with two different scales. Never seen that bridge on a Mustang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Beware! Headstock...Where's the Fender decal? Think neck has been changed, not Fender (so why not body might have been changed too?).....bridge p/u is typical hi-output single 'hot rail'. I would not buy this guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Yeah, someone stuck a Strat bridge in there and maybe a replacement neck. On the bright side you can't make a Mustang much worse. Might be an improvement! If it plays well, grab it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Its being sent to the store here, they said I have to pay when it arrives. IF the neck is not short scale and it sounds feels like a$$...not going for it. If the neck is short scale and it feels decent, considering its $299 and comes with a hard case, I may go for it. The truth is I don't like mustang bridges and would have moded it this way, also, I wanted rails on it and this is already sort of doing that...the neck is my only worry, and the state of the body. I did ask the girl helping me if the neck was short scale and she said yes. If it isn't they can't make me pay under false pretense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Its being sent to the store here, they said I have to pay when it arrives. IF the neck is not short scale and it sounds feels like a$$...not going for it. If the neck is short scale and it feels decent, considering its $299 and comes with a hard case, I may go for it. The truth is I don't like mustang bridges and would have moded it this way, also, I wanted rails on it and this is already sort of doing that...the neck is my only worry, and the state of the body. I did ask the girl helping me if the neck was short scale and she said yes. If it isn't they can't make me pay under false pretense. You can tell yourself easy enough if its short or long scale by measuring it.. You measure between where the string comes off the nut to where it hits the bridge.... HOWEVER my suggestion if you want a light guitar is to get a Pignose.. They are AWESOME little guitars and so much fun to play.. Got a full sized neck. Ive had my one for about 15 years now and its still going strong If you ever see one you gotta try it ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqlLjhDQzTU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hard to go wrong for $299. Play it hard and see if it stays in tune (ish). Also if it's a replacement neck take a close look at the neck pocket for fit. Don't want any looseness in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 HOWEVER my suggestion if you want a light guitar is to get a Pignose.. They are AWESOME little guitars and so much fun to play.. Got a full sized neck. Ive had my one for about 15 years now and its still going strong If you ever see one you gotta try it ;) I've played a pignose...a patient who was having the worst time first with alcohol withdrawal and then with the brain damage from it had one in his room; his friend brought it to him to help him. He ignored it but I filled it with batteries, tuned it and before I knew it he was coming around to it. I'd sit in his room when I had time and play a bit and we'd sing together. It was great therapy and fun. I didn't realize they had full scale necks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I've played a pignose...a patient who was having the worst time first with alcohol withdrawal and then with the brain damage from it had one in his room; his friend brought it to him to help him. He ignored it but I filled it with batteries, tuned it and before I knew it he was coming around to it. I'd sit in his room when I had time and play a bit and we'd sing together. It was great therapy and fun. I didn't realize they had full scale necks... I just measured it.. 24.25 :) Fun little things arnt they and the battery lasts for ages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Mmhh Fender Mustangs have that route on top to accommodate the tremolo springs. They may have filled that cavity and refinished. Just make sure it is not a modded Squier Cyclone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 One more thing is that Strat pickups and Mustang pickups are not the same size if I remember correctly. Whatever this guitar is it is very modified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Mmhh Fender Mustangs have that route on top to accommodate the tremolo springs. They may have filled that cavity and refinished. Just make sure it is not a modded Squier Cyclone. WOW....the cyclone can look a LOT like the mustang...thanks SO MUCH for the warning, that there is golden info The up side for me is I am so spoiled using the best equipment that virtually no guitar makes me happy. This isn't about me looking at names, this is my hands and fingers making their choices and my ears following that choice. If they say its worth the price, I jump. I was very impressed with the American Special Mustang I tried today. Good build and sound. They want $799 though and I don't think a little toy of a guitar deserves that much, USA made or not. But I could feel the craftsmanship and with that competition...if a cyclone sounds and feels as good as the Mustang I tried, heck, take my money. Like THAT will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Looking at the pick closer I see a couple of diagonal marks right where the tremolo cavity would have been, they may have just filled it out. Just look out for all this stuff when you inspect the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 You can tell yourself easy enough if its short or long scale by measuring it.. You measure between where the string comes off the nut to where it hits the bridge.... ... Due to intonation adjustment, in most cases it is more exacting to read half the scale from the fretboard side edge of the nut to the top of the 12th fret wire and double the reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Due to intonation adjustment, in most cases it is more exacting to read half the scale from the fretboard side edge of the nut to the top of the 12th fret wire and double the reading. Yeah its just a rough way to work it out.. just measure in the middle of the fret board :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 @ Riffster If you want a very close look, the item # is 109650384 at GC used inventory site. The pic is much bigger there. Again, thanks to you all for the warnings and the suggestions of what to look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 If you are looking for a light guitar, and you want a good guitar, think about a Parker DF (Maxxfly, formerly Dragonfly). My DF is 5 pounds, has a great neck profile (14" radius, 25.5" scale), hardened stainless steel frets, ebony fretboard, Sperzel locking tuners, Graph-tech bridge and nut, Duncan pickups, a Ghost piezo under the bridge, well balanced (no neck dive), and both a joy to play and to listen to. I've also gotten excellent customer service out of Parker. It's a little pricey, but they do make cheaper models overseas that might do the job. Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 If you are looking for a light guitar, and you want a good guitar, think about a Parker DF (Maxxfly, formerly Dragonfly). My DF is 5 pounds, has a great neck profile (14" radius, 25.5" scale), hardened stainless steel frets, ebony fretboard, Sperzel locking tuners, Graph-tech bridge and nut, Duncan pickups, a Ghost piezo under the bridge, well balanced (no neck dive), and both a joy to play and to listen to. I've also gotten excellent customer service out of Parker. It's a little pricey, but they do make cheaper models overseas that might do the job. Notes I have a Parker Nitefly SA made in USA. Gorgeous guitar, high quality, light as a feather...sounds sterile to me. The neck is a bit uncomfortable as well. We just have not bonded. It bothers me that we haven't bonded. My MIM Strat and I bonded from day one, I don't put it down. You'd think a lighter guitar with that many extras would be ideal. I'm getting rid of the Parker, as much as it pains me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 It looks like the guitar is not on the GC website anymore. I just noticed that the neck does not have the truss rod adjustment at the headstock, but rather at the hill, like a vintage Mustang would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 It looks like the guitar is not on the GC website anymore. I just noticed that the neck does not have the truss rod adjustment at the headstock, but rather at the hill, like a vintage Mustang would. I noticed that too. I've been handling the vintage duo sonics, musicmasters and mustangs for a while in my search and a few MIJ 65 RIs and USA mustangs. I should be able to sniff out any major issue. I'll bring a cheat sheet with all your advice and do a major inspection...heck, even a TRUE MINT isn't going to tempt me if it don't feel/sound right. I love all ya'll...watching out for each other on this forum, best guitar pals ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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