luctom Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hi...I have had this for 40ish years.I tried a site to date it...said 1955!...I don't think Casinos where in production till '62...any other pics..just let me know. Thanks in advance.Ian PS....lost scratchplate and trem arm years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 a picture of the Label would be great... it sure looks like the casino. I would guess in the early 60s as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 Thanks...do you mean the label inside the guitar? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Yes.. from what Ive seen of other Casinos.. its looking like a 63 or 64 model.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 I've just realised that the photobucket pic has not uploaded the s/n info. S/N 68238 Style...E230TD If you still need label pic, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 64240 to 71040 1964 by the way.. the model no.designates to a Name.. Casino.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 that's great....would the Bigsby have been added later ..or original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 that's great....would the Bigsby have been added later ..or original? Its possible the bigsby was added later.. but still a early Bigsby.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 This is indeed a really nice guitar. Gotta understand, even if "we" don't need pics, we would want to see them. I'm not too hip on vintage Epiphones, but I learned something already. I didn't know that headstock existed on "American" ones, thought it was only since Japan production. Makes sense it was borrowed from something. Of corse, that's provided it IS an American/Gibson made one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 This is indeed a really nice guitar. Gotta understand, even if "we" don't need pics, we would want to see them. I'm not too hip on vintage Epiphones, but I learned something already. I didn't know that headstock existed on "American" ones, thought it was only since Japan production. Makes sense it was borrowed from something. Of corse, that's provided it IS an American/Gibson made one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 Bedtime in North east England...will post some pics tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Not sure from the angle of the pic, but that headstock looks to me like the "Gibson" style headstock—kind'a like Paul McCartney's '64 Casino has. Lennon and Harrison's '65-'66 Casinos had the longer typical Epiphone headstock. Very nice guitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Wow. What a nice guitar!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Does it bother anybody else that the guitar is hanging on the wall, but there is no typical guitar hanging device visible? Please don't say that the thing is bolted to the wall..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 No...it's not bolted to the wall...hidden bracket! here are a couple more pictures. The general condition is OK, but the finish is not great...the back of the neck has 3/4 cuts??previous owner. The question is..how much restoration is too much? It wouldn't look good if the thing was all shiny. Any opinions welcomed. thanks again Ian. Edit. the photos look ok..but ,as I say, the finish..esp. back of neck is quite rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I wouldn't "restore" her, per say. I'd keep that aged look/patina about her. Restore as in; making sure everything works like it should, basic cleaning, etc., sure. Don't you dare try refinishing that beauty! ...but, that's just my opinion. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 Appreciate your opinion..thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I think that finish looks perfect as it is. It makes a change to see this sort of finish as 'original'. Even the Bigsby looks good on there, and I'm not a lover of floating bridges. Do you have the arm? Or will you leave it as is? How does it sound? I'm trying to imagine it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 Lost the arm long ago...don't even know if it was original.....actually, I've just played it for 1/2 hour..it really deserves to be played more. The back of the neck is rough...cracked lacquer. I may very carefully rub it down with v. fine sandpaper ...!If I can work out sound files...may put a bit up here. thanks again to all. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Never got around to the date here, eh? Anyway, having NOT seen the back of the neck or more pics (great pics by the way), this might not be worth much: If the neck is THAT rough, it's possible it was sprayed over at one time. Not uncommon, and spraying over a finish tends to make some things worse down the road. The guitar is valuable enough to want the proper advice. It's not only a Gem of a guitar, but worth some money, AND a piece of history. But just to give you an idea of what you are up against, if you mess with that finish, it seems a good chance you can drop the value in half...which seems to me, might "cost" you 1k-3k in monetary value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Stein...Slimt (earlier post)...dates it at 1964. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hello again!....can anybody date the Bigsby on this guitar. It has "US patent 169120 on the flat plate. Thanks.ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Just realized that this thread is somewhat old, but what I've written in the next post would still apply if you haven't already made modifications to the instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Your early '60s Casino is essentially identical to McCartney's, which he still owns, and it remains his favorite electric guitar. This headstock shape predated the hourglass shape, and was standard on many Kalamazoo-made electrics and acoustics, along with the triangular truss rod cover. My advice would be to only do what is minimally necessary to assure structural integrity. If the back of the neck is so rough that it hampers playability, then it may be wise to have it addressed - but take it to someone with a top notch reputation for a complete assessment, and again, only have done what is minimally needed. It will retain it's greatest value by remaining as original as possible. This guitar is too good (and rare) to screw up, so proceed with caution and thoughtfulness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luctom Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 Thanks for the advice. I haven't made any changes to the guitar....nor will I.I appreciate the kind and helpful comments. Will drop in from time to time. Regards Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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