rdnzl Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Of course, because the guitar that I sent Gibson to "duplicate" had but 19 frets. I hadn't even noticed that. Until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I hadn't even noticed that. Until now. Here's the 1942 J-45 that I sent to Gibson and that Gibson used as the model for your guitar: You can hear it on the clip from track 9 of the CD companion to Kalamazoo Gals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Here's the 1942 J-45 that I sent to Gibson and that Gibson used as the model for your guitar: You can hear it on the clip from track 9 of the CD companion to Kalamazoo Gals. John, Have you ever compared a J45 Legend to your guitar? Or have you compared yours to Eldon's original. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 John, Have you ever compared a J45 Legend to your guitar? Or have you compared yours to Eldon's original. Dave Dave, Alas, that one's not mine. It was one of two that friends loaned me to loan to Gibson (I also sent 2 of my guitars). Imagine my state of mind when 9 months or so into the project, folks at Gibson Montana informed me that they didn't know the whereabouts of the guitars I'd lent them! (They did find and return the guitars, though they were in a very dried-out state.) I've not done an in-hand comparison. When I was at Gibson HQ in Nashville to review and photograph the WWII-era shipping ledgers, Gibson did kindly lend me the prototype of the L-00 Legend based on Leroy Parnell's 1937 L-00. I thought it a fine guitar. I've also been impressed with Gibson's "copies" of the WWI-era guitars that I lent them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bram99 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Looks great! Can someone remind us of the differences between that guitar and my J45 (Standard)? BluesKing777. Tapered headstock 3 on plate tuners Big beefy Thick neck 19 fret neck vs 20 on std and TV Rectangular vs belly up bridge on std and TV Cloth brace reinforcement strips and side stays The brown finish on the mahogany is different, warmer more transparent burnt umber brown rather chocolate like std and TV Different bracing ...punchy quick response dry but sweet I have the Banner reissue and the mahogany LG-2 (1) from John's Kalamazoo Gals work. Love them both. Most of all my J-45 banner reissue.. It is my partner for life. For me...nothing compares. Hope yours works out the same for you, rdnzl....congratulations on a nice guitar. Here's Tony P. playing one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 And to top it off, 19 fretts! And the rectangle bridge, like they are supposed to have!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I used to own that one that Tony is playing in the above video. I bought another one yesterday ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdnzl Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 I used to own that one that Tony is playing in the above video. I bought another one yesterday ! Is it different than one of the "One of 20" models? How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Is it different than one of the "One of 20" models? How so? I don't know where you got the one of twenty ? If yours is the one I think it is, then it is one of 50 that were made. The one I bought is the same as yours if yours is a 2013 model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdnzl Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 I don't know where you got the one of twenty ? If yours is the one I think it is, then it is one of 50 that were made. The one I bought is the same as yours if yours is a 2013 model. Not too worried about how many, but was just wondering if there are differences. This is the description of mine: Gibson 1942 Banner J-45 Reissue 2013 Vintage Sunburst *1 of 20* Specs Body Style: Round Shoulder Color: Vintage Sunburst Body Wood: Solid Adirondack spruce top, solid premium mahogany back and sides Neck: Premium mahogany Machine Heads: Reproduction 1942 white button Fingerboard: Madagascar rosewood No. of Frets: 19 Large size neck (baseball bat--same as Legend) Nut: Bone, 1.75" width Bridge: Rectangular, Madagascar rosewood Scale Length: 24-3/4" Case: Reproduction "Red Line" hardshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I don't know where you got the one of twenty ? If yours is the one I think it is, then it is one of 50 that were made. The one I bought is the same as yours if yours is a 2013 model. I don't know how many copies Gibson made of the WWII-era guitars that I supplied them for the Banner reissue project. Folks at Gibson originally told me that they planned on building 50, but never gave me actual production numbers. This is verbatim the only information I received after production began: "The status of the replicas is this: We did a '42 J-45, an LG-2 Mahogany and a Southern Jumbo. All are sold out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpicker Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 jt I bet your heart skipped a beat or two when Gibson told you they didn't know the whereabouts of two of the guitars you sent them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 rdnzl, does yours say 1 of 20 on the label ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunset Player Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I saw this one on Ebay and Reverb I believe. Was gassing for it, but just not the right time. It's so rare to get a 1.75 Gibby. -I kinda saw this as a less expensive, more accessible version of a j-45 legend, which will likely be outta my league without trade-ins, etc. What is the difference between the J-45 Legend and this re-issue? Just all hide glue construction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdnzl Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 rdnzl, does yours say 1 of 20 on the label ? It says 1942 Banner J-45. Tony's video shows him saying "red spruce top". This one is adirondack, as is what I thought they all would be. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin 1940D28 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Man oh man, let's face it, these are copies, although not exact in any way other than name. Don't get me wrong, modern Gibsons are miles ahead of current to 30 year old Martins. I have 2 Montana J's I've had for 20 years and won't part with them. My 1942 Gibson Southerner Jumbo and 1944 Gibson J 45 are what they are, and as much as as I like the Montana Gibsons there is no comparison. To even argue the point with an old fool would make you as much of a fool as "the old fool". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalex Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 It says 1942 Banner J-45. Tony's video shows him saying "red spruce top". This one is adirondack, as is what I thought they all would be. Thoughts? Red spruce is another term for adirondack I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdnzl Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 Man oh man, let's face it, these are copies, although not exact in any way other than name. Don't get me wrong, modern Gibsons are miles ahead of current to 30 year old Martins. I have 2 Montana J's I've had for 20 years and won't part with them. My 1942 Gibson Southerner Jumbo and 1944 Gibson J 45 are what they are, and as much as as I like the Montana Gibsons there is no comparison. To even argue the point with an old fool would make you as much of a fool as "the old fool". I'm not seeing any arguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Sunburst Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I have one of the elusive Southern Jumbos copied from John's and it is my favorite guitar. Had a late 60''s "pencil neck" J45 back in the early 70's and that thing drove me crazy trying to squeeze my fingers between the strings. The Southen Jumbo's big beefy neck is a nice handful of wood. I notice SB slope shoulder gibsons are popular with Texas rhythm back up players in the fiddle contest scene. They seem to provide that fat mid range tone for the "sock" style. Also like no binding on the neck .. binding looks like an extra set of strings to me. I believe Les Paul felt the same., I also have an L00 Legend (see avatar), This has the true V neck, big and sharp, unlike all the other L00's I tried when searching...and fantastic tone. Ithink Ren really went the extra mile on the Legends for absolute acccuracy. Fantastic for what was considered a "budget guitar" back In the day. Fortunately some guy's wife was leaning on him to unload his guitars and I got a good deal. Won't be parting with either of these guitars. The thing I like about Gibson's is they're "funky". They just have some kind of mojo I don't feel from most other brands. Swang on, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I have one of the elusive Southern Jumbos copied from John's and it is my favorite guitar. Had a late 60''s "pencil neck" J45 back in the early 70's and that thing drove me crazy trying to squeeze my fingers between the strings. The Southen Jumbo's big beefy neck is a nice handful of wood. I notice SB slope shoulder gibsons are popular with Texas rhythm back up players in the fiddle contest scene. They seem to provide that fat mid range tone for the "sock" style. Also like no binding on the neck .. binding looks like an extra set of strings to me. I believe Les Paul felt the same., I also have an L00 Legend (see avatar), This has the true V neck, big and sharp, unlike all the other L00's I tried when searching...and fantastic tone. Ithink Ren really went the extra mile on the Legends for absolute acccuracy. Fantastic for what was considered a "budget guitar" back In the day. Fortunately some guy's wife was leaning on him to unload his guitars and I got a good deal. Won't be parting with either of these guitars. The thing I like about Gibson's is they're "funky". They just have some kind of mojo I don't feel from most other brands. Swang on, I agree - Gibson's have more 'soul' than about anything else I've ever played. There are great sounding examples from other makers, both large and small, out there - but they all eventually get sounding like they've been processed to death like white bread and synthetic cheese after I've been around 'em a while. Don't know if it's a matter of being more complex/multi-faceted or what - maybe the sound is just a bit more raw. I can almost get that vibe from my old Guild D-35, but not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 It says 1942 Banner J-45. Tony's video shows him saying "red spruce top". This one is adirondack, as is what I thought they all would be. Thoughts? All Adirondack is red spruce but not all red spruce is Adirondack. Adirondack refers to the area the tree grew ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 jt I bet your heart skipped a beat or two when Gibson told you they didn't know the whereabouts of two of the guitars you sent them! Indeed! Though, it wasn't just two guitars, but all four that I'd provided, two of which belonged to generous friends. My heart skipped more beats for those guitars that weren't mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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