MichaelT Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I didn't buy one but I did get to play it on Saturday. It was a LOT like my 2018 Traditional as far as the color, flame, sound and everything. The neck is slightly larger but not by much. In fact, if I took the Traditional truss rod cover off of mine and put a Standard cover on, it would be difficult to tell the difference other than the amber colored switch knob instead of the cream colored one. It was 9 pounds, 6 ounces and played VERY WELL with just the standard factory setup. I actually didn't play it as long as I normally would because it was so similar to one I already own. I'm going to call this a win for Gibson. Pickguard installed, Standard truss rod cover, amber knob, Burstbucker 1 and 2. Almost the same guitar. I haven't had the opportunity to play any of the others yet but it's a quality instrument. Even thought their website says it comes with .010's, it felt like .009's on it. Very easy to play. And, the tailpiece was down all the way, which is something I found a bit unusual from the factory. Intonation was perfect right out of the box. If I didn't have one just like it, I'd get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Wow, pretty much the same guitar except for the truss rod cover and price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang Gang Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Another good opinion of the new '50s Standard. The strings might have felt a little lighter because the neck is a little chunkier and with the ABR-1 bridge not being as wide as a Nashville bridge you can usually deck the stopbar and the strings still stay off the back of the bridge. Haven't heard anyone say anything very negative about these new (old) models. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelT Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, Big Bill said: Wow, pretty much the same guitar except for the truss rod cover and price. Pretty much, yeah. I'm going back Saturday to pick up a subwoofer for the band and I'm tempted to bring my Traditional to get a real comparison. They're very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NighthawkChris Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The real reason why I don't really care for the new 50's model Standards of today is because of the weight. Gosh, 9lbs 6oz! From what I have been reading around is that they are all generally in this 9-10lb range. That would fatigue my shoulder even after an hour of band practice... I could hold my NH, Tele, Strat, or 1994 LP Standard on my shoulder for quite some time before fatigue sets in - if any. FYI, I sold my 2018 Classic LP goldtop the other day because it was so heavy (weighed in a tick under 10lbs). I just wasn't that much into it. Quick change of heart and just wasn't "wowwing" me anymore - very sloppy fretwork as well was also something I wasn't interested in rectifying. I am anticipating getting an R9 so I wanted to fund a superb LP with this sale. Looking for something about 8 1/2lbs. Definitely not going into the 9lb range... I digress. Anyhow, I know these 50s LPs look beautiful and have been received well I suppose for the most part, but I will not buy another guitar that weighs north of 9lbs. When it comes to guitars, ounces count. As the saying goes, 5#1+ adds up. I just don't see the real benefit of having a guitar that weighs that much personally. The Custom Shop guitars I am looking at - which are absolutely fabulous I might add - are generally a bit lighter than the USA LPs, and I know these CS LPs all sound and play great. And to add, I don't think that heavy guitars are really the sought after thing these days. I seem to have conversations with players that prefer thicker necks than heavy solid bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Chris, I don't think it's so much the weight of the guitar but that it's a solid body, non-weight relieved that is appealing, at least for me anyway. Custom shops are solid as well but they use higher quality wood than the USA Lesters. This is part of their price tag. Some players including myself believe you get better sustain with the solid body, but that has been argued... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NighthawkChris Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) Hi Big Bill, I am not one to comment on solid body vs. sustain... I would believe any convincing argument. My biggest qualm is the weight as I personally cannot handle it. Trust me, I wasn't super thrilled about selling my 2018 LP Classic, but damn was it killing me to use it. It was easily my heaviest guitar at the time and glad I don't have to deal with it. I mean, I wouldn't have sold it if I really wanted to keep it. But haven't looked back, just glad that I got compensated for nearly everything I paid out of pocket for it as it was in excellent condition. Really wanting one of them historics though... Damn, I have major GAS right now for one of them fine Lesters... I sort of was debating to pick up one of them 50s goldtops with the humbuckers. Even entertained getting a quote from GC as how much the trade would be (for the 18 Classic)... My advice as probably everyone knows, don't do it... If you do, bring the lube, because what they will offer will hurt - surprise there huh? I ended up selling to someone who inquired about it via CL and that worked out great - cash in hand. And being that the weight of the 50s goldtop Standards was right on par with the 18 Classic I sold, I figured I'd pass. Now... If I were to get a goldtop LP, I'd like to go R6 or R7 depending on whether or not I wanted P90s or HBs. I'd sort of lean towards the HBs TBH for me personally, but to each and to their own I say. But again, GASSSSSING for an R9 like no one's business! Black Dog has one pretty R9... Maybe he could share some nice old fashioned guitar porn with us 🙂 Overall, yeah them there 50s LP Standards are some pretty things. It was very tempting to want one, but I figured a Historic would be more what I was after. Just have to wait a while to save or until I run into a deal I can't refuse buying used. Oh, congrats Bill on you pulling the trigger on a new LP. I bet it is absolutely stunning and sounds amazing. I hope you enjoy it for many years to come! Edited July 9, 2019 by NighthawkChris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Thanks Chris! I may go for an R0 one of these days, but that is a long way down the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 My R0 weighs 8.03 pounds. It's like a feather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Black Dog said: It's like a feather. Can you tickle a women's bum with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NighthawkChris Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Black Dog said: My R0 weighs 8.03 pounds. It's like a feather. Yeah, I'll bet it plays like a dream too 🙂 Gibson Historics are where it's at IMHO. Of course, the price tag is significantly up compared to the USA lineup, but from what I've heard is that you won't be sorry you spent the extra money. And not knocking the USA lineup at all as they are stellar instruments without a doubt. I'm just at the point where I have been trying to push every penny into a Gibson Historic purchase I can get from selling what gear I don't use that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Big Bill said: Can you tickle a women's bum with it? Well, it's only like a feather, not an actual feather. But I can make a few offers and see if I get any takers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Well, it's only like a feather, not an actual feather. But I can make a few offers and see if I get any takers. DON'T!!! I just tried it with my wife using my 2013 wight relieved Standard. I'm posting this from the rafters in my garage!! Oh I'm F**king scared right. Me too!!! Edited July 9, 2019 by Big Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauloqs Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I really like the new Standard 50s. The marginal changes have me liking it a bit more than the Traditional of previous years. For instance, the thinner neck binding give it a more refined feel in my opinion. The narrower headstock on paper deduces the lateral angle the D and G strings make after the nut. I like the new neck carve just a bit better. These weren't things that I thought it'd made noticeable difference before the new Standards were released and it surprised me how much I ended up liking those small tweaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 2:59 PM, Big Bill said: Wow, pretty much the same guitar except for the truss rod cover and price. yep. my friend that owns a local store told me the new Standards are the old Traditionals & vice versa. AND a price drop as you mentioned. He has a 2019 Tobbacoburst Standard in stock thats beautiful. 2499.99 But I just dropped a few bucks there for a used Custom a couple of months back so I'm good for awhile. it kinda like the new coke / old coke thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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