None more 335 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I put a Rio Grande Dirty Harry tele pickup in my parts tele. It's made like a P-90 in a tele bridge size. Really gives my Tele more of a Gibson sound. It can be noisy but aren't all P-90's? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) When I replaced the mudbuckers in my G400 with Mean 90's, it really put some spark in the attach that wasn't there before... Pardon the hex wrench held on the neck PU, for adjusting the Dive Bar on the Duesenberg. Edited April 30, 2021 by mihcmac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 9:32 PM, mihcmac said: Thank you, this SG is my Heavy Metal Monster (Old Metal)... P90's can do anything... Yep, Its nice too. Truth is, I used to hate P90's because every time I knew they were played the person played that heavy metal stuff and I'm not a fan of it. It wasn't until here, that Rob or Digger, convinced me of trying them in a Casino. I can't remember where I did buy my Casino Coupe but it started out with the clean tones and the guitar had me. Yes, the sales guy showed the other side of it but I don't use that side of it. Well, American Woman is about it. It starts off Blues and then changes over but I do love that song and play it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, mihcmac said: When I replaced the mudbuckers in my G400 with Mean 90's, it really put some spark in the attach that wasn't there before... Pardon the hex wrench held on the neck PU, for adjusting the Dive Bar on the Duesenberg. Another nice one, Don't you feel guilty showing off your jewels to everyone here. Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 20 hours ago, merciful-evans said: P90s puzzle me. I don’t recall using P90s until 2015 when I was checking out Gibson DC LPs for the first time. I really wanted to like them. I couldn’t because I didn’t like the sound. That sound is present on the posted video (during first 5 minutes anyway). Oddly, the sound is very close to the sound I crave. But its like it’s reached beyond the sound & gone too far. Then the strings sound like rubber bands. If not for that, I might have bought an older DC LP (carved top) goldtop I found at my local store. P90s can sound great on other guitars though. I was very taken with the ES-390, and even bought a Epi Casino Coupe later that year. The Fender TC90 I briefly had, came with high output SD P90s. I felt sure I was going to have to replace those PDQ. Never had a good experience with any SDs, didn’t like overwound pickups & still nervous of P90s. However they sounded superb. I’d love to get that sound again. So yes, they puzzle me. Yep, I left the Railroad in 2013 and didn't buy the Casino Coupe till about 2018 or so. It was Digger here that convinced me of them. I knew he loved the Blues more than heavy metal so I gave them a try. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 13 hours ago, SteveFord said: For the P90 sound, think Live At Leeds or Aqualung (guitar tip came courtesy of Leslie West). I really like P90s, especially in a Les Paul Standard. I want to experiment on changing out the pickups on the Epiphone Les Paul Standard. Not sure yet what I want to try? I thought seriously about P90's in it and I want it for playing those classic slow Blues. I can't remember which pickups most Blues players use in a Les Paul? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Retired said: I want to experiment on changing out the pickups on the Epiphone Les Paul Standard. Not sure yet what I want to try? I thought seriously about P90's in it and I want it for playing those classic slow Blues. I can't remember which pickups most Blues players use in a Les Paul? It wasn't a big deal to swap out the humbuckings on my new 339 with Mean 90's, that have Quick Connects on the PU end. So if I want to swap later I just unscrew the PU and unplug it. It was relatively easy to remove the Vol controls through the F hole and desolder the old pickup cables and install the new Quick Connect cables. I also added a Roller Bridge and a Duesenberg Les Trem II. Edited April 30, 2021 by mihcmac 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, mihcmac said: It wasn't a big deal to swap out the humbuckings on my new 339 with Mean 90's that have Quick Connects on the PU. So if I want to swap later I just unscrew the PU and unplug it. It was relatively easy to remove the Vol controls through the F hole and desolder the old pickup cables and install the new Quick Connect cables. I also added a Roller Bridge and a Duesenberg Les Trem II. Thanks, So far to date, I have never even taken a pickup out or looked inside the guitar. Just seen inside on videos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Retired said: Thanks, So far to date, I have never even taken a pickup out or looked inside the guitar. Just seen inside on videos. If you just take the cover off of the control cavity the wiring is usually pretty simple, just need a good soldering iron or gun, at least for most guitars. This Ibanez I got a Telecaster wiring harness above with the new Mean 90's with Quick Connects so no soldering, everything just plugged in. I also installed a Hipshot Nickel Bridge. Oh note the Quick Connects I mentioned in here are actually called Kwikplugs Edited April 30, 2021 by mihcmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 10 hours ago, mihcmac said: When I replaced the mudbuckers in my G400 with Mean 90's, it really put some spark in the attach that wasn't there before... <...snip...>Pardon the hex wrench held on the neck PU, for adjusting the Dive Bar on the Duesenberg. Nice SG BTW I traded some of my Band-in-a-Box aftermarket software for an LTD-Faux-Les-Paul, and it had overwound humbuckers in it. The sound was appropriate for heavy metal, but not very good for the kind of gigs I solicit. So I put Mean 90s in it and a Varitone. The Mean 90s sound great, almost like 'real' P90s. They have a bit more treble, which can be compensated by the tone knob. The Varitone was a waste of money, it sits in the bypass position almost all the time. But I had fun modding the guitar (it was my first mod). I'm out of upload space, and my site isn't https so if you want to see it, it's here: Faux-LTD with Mean 90s and a Varitone Notes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Retired said: I want to experiment on changing out the pickups on the Epiphone Les Paul Standard. Not sure yet what I want to try? I thought seriously about P90's in it and I want it for playing those classic slow Blues. I can't remember which pickups most Blues players use in a Les Paul? Just a thought... You can probably pick up a Used Epi LP with P90’s for little more than buying a good set of P90’s & modding the LP you have.. Wouldn’t it be great have both? I know I like having both LP’s with HB’s & P90’s.... It provides a huge palette of Sound.. A new one has a MAP of $399.00... You should be able to get it for about $350.00..... Edited April 30, 2021 by Larsongs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: Nice SG BTW I traded some of my Band-in-a-Box aftermarket software for an LTD-Faux-Les-Paul, and it had overwound humbuckers in it. The sound was appropriate for heavy metal, but not very good for the kind of gigs I solicit. So I put Mean 90s in it and a Varitone. The Mean 90s sound great, almost like 'real' P90s. They have a bit more treble, which can be compensated by the tone knob. The Varitone was a waste of money, it sits in the bypass position almost all the time. But I had fun modding the guitar (it was my first mod). I'm out of upload space, and my site isn't https so if you want to see it, it's here: Faux-LTD with Mean 90s and a Varitone Notes I have Mean 90's in 4 different guitars with different wood that seem to react a "little" different, Ash seems to be the brightest followed by Mahogany then the 5 Layer Maple with a Maple Centerblock seems to be the loudest. But I really like way each one sounds. My blonde Tele has Slick 90's in it which I wanted a single Volume Control so when I removed one and installed a VariTone in the spare hole. Which I find most useful with both pickups on and with both Tone Controls on 0 creating a mid Wah Squelch. Also use the notch filters to help eliminate noise under certain conditions. Basically use the VariTone on Blueshawk the same way but most of the time off. Edited April 30, 2021 by mihcmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Larsongs said: Just a thought... You can probably pick up a Used Epi LP with P90’s for little more than buying a good set of P90’s & modding the LP you have.. Wouldn’t it be great have both? I know I like having both LP’s with HB’s & P90’s.... It provides a huge palette of Sound.. A new one has a MAP of $399.00... You should be able to get it for about $350.00..... I have noticed that since the Gibson re-org of Epiphone in 2020, that set-neck used Epiphones asking price has been increasing, with some models asking price going beyond what they originally sold for, specially with the many discontinued models.. Also you can get a brand new Epiphone SG Classic with Worn Finish with P-90's for only $379.. The lowest price dual P90 Epiphone with a setneck. Update note that this model has the extended neck joint that allows the strap button to be placed farther forward for better balance, negating neckdive like the newer Gibson SG's instead of the 60's style joint used on most G400's. Edited April 30, 2021 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, mihcmac said: I have noticed that since the Gibson re-org of Epiphone in 2020, that set-neck used Epiphones asking price has been increasing, with some models asking price going beyond what they originally sold for, specially with the many discontinued models.. Also you can get a brand new Epiphone SG Classic with Worn Finish with P-90's for only $379.. The lowest price dual P90 Epiphone with a setneck. Heck yeah! Get them to knock off 10-15% & it’s not much more than a pair of good P90’s! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Larsongs said: Heck yeah! Get them to knock off 10-15% & it’s not much more than a pair of good P90’s! Good P90's is all relative, the P90 Pros's in the SG Classic if bought new from a retailer would be more than half the price of the guitar. But I must admit I do prefer the sound of P90 Pro's over Gibson P90's , without a doubt. My new Wilshire sounds killer with them. Edited April 30, 2021 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I've posted this before - The stock Gibson P90s in this Custom aren't very powerful but they just sound good. Still tempted by the hum-cancelling Fralins; I'm in UK so would have to add 25% duty etc. https://www.fralinpickups.com/product/p90-hum-cancelling/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, jdgm said: I've posted this before - The stock Gibson P90s in this Custom aren't very powerful but they just sound good. Still tempted by the hum-cancelling Fralins; I'm in UK so would have to add 25% duty etc. https://www.fralinpickups.com/product/p90-hum-cancelling/ Very kuwel, a set for one of my guitars came out to $318. Would love to hear what they sound like. I tried Kent Armstrong noiseless P90's and a few other brands but was disappointed with the sound. Eventually settling on having one reverse coil in a set for hum cancelling, which most manufactures are now supplying except Gibson and Epiphone. Maybe this vid if its the most recent version of the Fralin noiseless. Edited April 30, 2021 by mihcmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 21 hours ago, mihcmac said: If you just take the cover off of the control cavity the wiring is usually pretty simple, just need a good soldering iron or gun, at least for most guitars. This Ibanez I got a Telecaster wiring harness above with the new Mean 90's with Quick Connects so no soldering, everything just plugged in. I also installed a Hipshot Nickel Bridge. Oh note the Quick Connects I mentioned in here are actually called Kwikplugs Gregor Hilden uses PAF's in his 60's Les Paul he plays mostly. (That I read anyway) Do you know if they fit right in a Les Paul? Although, I think the P90's gives those same tones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: Nice SG BTW I traded some of my Band-in-a-Box aftermarket software for an LTD-Faux-Les-Paul, and it had overwound humbuckers in it. The sound was appropriate for heavy metal, but not very good for the kind of gigs I solicit. So I put Mean 90s in it and a Varitone. The Mean 90s sound great, almost like 'real' P90s. They have a bit more treble, which can be compensated by the tone knob. The Varitone was a waste of money, it sits in the bypass position almost all the time. But I had fun modding the guitar (it was my first mod). I'm out of upload space, and my site isn't https so if you want to see it, it's here: Faux-LTD with Mean 90s and a Varitone Notes Nice, I'd like to mod the Black Epiphone Standard as my first guitar. That way if I do screw it up, I'm only out $400.00 Lol. Actually I think I payed way less than that? About $375.00 on sale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Larsongs said: Just a thought... You can probably pick up a Used Epi LP with P90’s for little more than buying a good set of P90’s & modding the LP you have.. Wouldn’t it be great have both? I know I like having both LP’s with HB’s & P90’s.... It provides a huge palette of Sound.. A new one has a MAP of $399.00... You should be able to get it for about $350.00..... That is very true, Thanks. I have 2 Epiphone guitars with P90's, One being a Casino hollow body I play most & the other a Riviera with the 3 P 90's. Maybe when Deb is gone all day the next time shopping with her friend I need to just go play different guitars with different pickups? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Retired said: Gregor Hilden uses PAF's in his 60's Les Paul he plays mostly. (That I read anyway) Do you know if they fit right in a Les Paul? Although, I think the P90's gives those same tones? Nothing wrong with trying something different. (Patent Applied For) PAF's are early Gibson Humbucker style, that a lot of people like.If your Black Epiphone LP Standard has humbuckers in it, PAF's will fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 The GFS Mean 90s I put in my less-Paul have one pup both reversed polarity and reversed wound. Using both pickups turns it into a giant humbucker. In very rare instances where the stage lights or something else caused hum, I simply put the pup switch in the middle position all night. Notes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, mihcmac said: Nothing wrong with trying something different. (Patent Applied For) PAF's are early Gibson Humbucker style, that a lot of people like.If your Black Epiphone LP Standard has humbuckers in it, PAF's will fit. A set of real vintage Gibson PAF Humbuckers will cost into the Thousands of Dollars... Fralin makes some amazing Pickups for very reasonable $$$. The new Epi Coronet & Wilshire are inexpensive, very cool & sound great Stock! These Guitars List at $399.00 & $499.00... 10-15% off & they're smokin’ Deals! Edited May 1, 2021 by Larsongs More info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Larsongs said: The new Epi Coronet & Wilshire are inexpensive, very cool & sound great Stock! These Guitars List at $399.00 & $499.00... 10-15% off & they're smokin’ Deals! The new Coronet and Wilshire are excellent. This Wilshire below is a 2012 reissue Built at the Gibson Kalamazoo facility that originally sold out very quickly for about $1200, now when you can find used ones they are hovering around $3000. Almost identical (except for the Bikini Badge) to my MIC Wilshire that currently sells new for $449. These two could cause some confusion on the used market. Also note that the 50's and early 60's Wilshire had the Bikini Badge. Edited May 1, 2021 by mihcmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) Those 2012’s are awesome.. Apologies... I meant to post one of the new inexpensive reissues like this one here... These are very cool at any price IMO... $449.00 MAP Edited May 1, 2021 by Larsongs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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