Bowdiddley Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Just curious how many of his supporters are still "fully" behind him. Guantanamo still open and operating. More troops going to Afghanistan. Troops still in Iraq. Deficit has tripled since he took office. Energy secretary has now stated Obama's energy proposals are "really a tax for consumers". Obama even said these proposed changes will cause energy bills to "skyrocket". Has he done anything he promised on the campaign trail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 It's all for the greater-good. Crowd response: THE GREATER GOOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyH Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I thought it was important that he be elected instead of McCain. To answer the question, no. He is much worse than I ever imagined, and his inevitable inflation hasn't hit yet (inevitable because of the out of control spending and printing of money), his tax increases haven't gone into effect yet, and the consequences of his international relations have not hit yet. When they do, it will be quite bad for us. If his health care plan is as bad as everythinig else he's done, we're in trouble there too. I thought Bush was bad for outrageous spending, but this is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyH Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Oh yes, I forgot about the high energy costs resulting from his cap and trade policy. Ouch! That's going to hurt. On the other hand, he's still got 90% approval rating from democrats and 60% for general population. He must be doing something that a lot of people like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Much better than his successor. Getting things in line for a successful adminstration. Plenty of confidence here, notwithstanding the "say no" Republicans who stand in the way of our future. Besides, the joy of hearing right wingers "whine" is worth it if nothing else were accomplished (which won't happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowdiddley Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Besides' date=' the joy of hearing right wingers "whine" is worth it if nothing else were accomplished[/b'](which won't happen). But at what point does the damage being done to the American way of life (and that is happening) does it become "not worth it"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Much better than his successor. Getting things in line for a successful adminstration. Plenty of confidence here' date=' notwithstanding the "say no" Republicans who stand in the way of our future. Besides, the joy of hearing right wingers "whine" is worth it if nothing else were accomplished (which won't happen).[/quote'] Perfectly stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 But at what point does the damage being done to the American way of life (and that is happening) does it become "not worth it"? The "American way to life" has come to mean the wrong thing, in my opinion. Having three kids, living in a once-forested subdivision, commuting an hour in your SUV, and buying everything you can afford only to throw it away shortly after is not American; it's simply selfish. Americans have gotten used to a life that doesn't involve any sacrifice. And that's tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Much better than his successor. Getting things in line for a successful adminstration. Plenty of confidence here' date=' notwithstanding the "say no" Republicans who stand in the way of our future. Besides, the joy of hearing right wingers "whine" is worth it if nothing else were accomplished (which won't happen).[/quote'] Are you ready for the new world order? Won't be long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Just curious how many of his supporters are still "fully" behind him. Guantanamo still open and operating. More troops going to Afghanistan. Troops still in Iraq. Deficit has tripled since he took office. Energy secretary has now stated Obama's energy proposals are "really a tax for consumers". Obama even said these proposed changes will cause energy bills to "skyrocket". Has he done anything he promised on the campaign trail? Dude, give it time. You can't reasonably expect any president to accomplish those proposals in that amount of time. People keep *****ing about the deficit. Well, we're in an economic crisis not seen since the Depression. So yeah, the deficit is going to rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The "American way to life" has come to mean the wrong thing' date=' in my opinion. Having three kids, living in a once-forested subdivision, commuting an hour in your SUV, and buying everything you can afford only to throw it away shortly after is not American; it's simply selfish. Americans have gotten used to a life that doesn't involve any sacrifice. And that's tragic.[/quote'] Wow, your statements are broad generalizations that mean nothing to me and the people in my community. America is certainly more than the summation of your talking points. I have three kids and know people with more children than I have. I bought a used SUV and drive it very sparingly. No where, I repeat, no where around my geographic region has there ever been a forest. I don't know too many people who commute an hour to work. Most work locally here. No sacrifice. I've sacrificed a lot so my children can have an adult around to raise them properly. My children fully understand sacrifice and hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Wow' date=' your statements are broad generalizations that mean nothing to me and the people in my community. America is certainly more than the summation of your talking points. I have three kids and know people with more children than I have. I bought a used SUV and drive it very sparingly. No where, I repeat, no where around my geographic region has there ever been a forest. I don't know too many people who commute an hour to work. Most work locally here. No sacrifice. I've sacrificed a lot so my children can have an adult around to raise them properly. My children fully understand sacrifice and hard work. [/quote'] Good. You are to be commended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyH Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hoyt: What makes you say that this administration is better than the last? It seems to be shaping up as something much worse. Perhaps historically bad. I'm open to persuasion on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Are you ready for the new world order? Won't be long now. You mean the one where pragmatism and dialogue is favored over arrogance and bullying? Yeah, I'm ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hoyt: What makes you say that this administration is better than the last? It seems to be shaping up as something much worse. Perhaps historically bad. I'm open to persuasion on this one. As of yet, he has not invaded a sovereign nation without provocation and landed us in a ridiculous military quagmire that goes on six years later. That's one. I don't have the time nor the inclination to point out others to people who expect Obama to fix everything in the first four months of his presidency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 It's all for the greater-good. Crowd response: THE GREATER GOOD Crusty jugglers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowdiddley Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 As of yet' date=' he has not invaded a sovereign nation without provocation and landed us in a ridiculous military quagmire that goes on six years later. That's one. [b']I don't have the time nor the inclination to point out others to people who expect Obama to fix everything in the first four months of his presidency.[/b] If that was directed towards me, let me please make a correction, I at no time thought Obama would "fix" anything. His words prior to being elected were lie's made simply to get elected. Same as any other politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 But at what point does the damage being done to the American way of life (and that is happening) does it become "not worth it"? Seems to me that Obama -- and those who voted for a change in 2008 -- are repairing the "damage" done by bushco and his cronies. I think that is very important right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hoyt: What makes you say that this administration is better than the last? It seems to be shaping up as something much worse. Perhaps historically bad. I'm open to persuasion on this one. Rudy, I'm sorry, but if you are going to judge Obama on 100 days in office, there is absolutely nothing I can do to persuade you that bushco and his supporters dang near ruined this country. For the record, I voted for bush in 2000 before I realized he was a lying, warmongering, bigoted, psuedo-Christian, fool. Glad to say I and others rectified that as soon as the opportunity presented itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowdiddley Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 There was a Pied Piper who said, “We live in the greatest country in the world. Help me change it!” *And the people said, “Change is good!” Then he said, “We are going to tax the rich fat-cats,”… *And the people said “Sock it to them!” “and redistribute their wealth.” *And the people said, “Show me the money!” And then he said, “Redistribution of wealth is good for everybody” *And Joe the plumber said, are you kidding?” And Joe’s personal records were hacked and publicized. *And one lone reporter asked, “Isn’t that Marxist policy?” And she was banished from the kingdom! Then someone asked,“With no foreign relations experience, how will you deal with radical terrorists?” “Simple, said the Pied Piper. I’ll sit down and talk with them and show them how nice we really are and they’ll forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!” Then the Pied Piper said, “I’ll give 95% of you lower taxes.” *And one, lone voice said, “But 40% of us don’t pay ANY taxes.” So the Pied Piper said, “Then I’ll give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!” *And the people said, “Show me the money!” Then the Pied Piper said, “I’ll tax your Capital Gains when you sell your homes!” *And the people yawned while the slumping housing market collapsed. And he said, “I’ll mandate employer- funded health care for EVERY worker and raise the minimum wage.” *And the people said, “Gimme some of that!” Then he said, “I’ll penalize employers who ship jobs overseas.” *And the people said, “Where’s my rebate check?” Then the Pied Piper actually said, “I’ll bankrupt the coal industry and electricity rates will skyrocket!” *And the people said, “Coal is dirty, coal is evil, no more coal! But we don’t care for that part about higher electric rates.” So the Pied Piper said, “Not to worry. If your rebate isn’t enough to cover your expenses, we’ll bail you out. Just sign up with ACORN and your troubles are over!” Then he said, “Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted. Let’s grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches, free medical care, bi-lingual signs and guaranteed housing.” *And the people said, “Bravo!” And they made him King! And so it came to pass that employers, facing spiraling costs and ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers. Others simply gave up and went out of business and the economy slowed even further. Then the Pied Piper said, “I am the Messiah and I’m here to save you! We’ll just print more money so everyone will have enough!” But our foreign trading partners said, “Wait a minute. Your dollar isn’t worth what it was. You’ll have to pay more.” *And the people said, “Wait a minute. That’s not fair!” And the world said, “Neither are these other, idiotic programs you’ve embraced. You’ve become a Socialist state and a second-rate power. Now you’ll play by our rules!” *And the people said, “What have we done?” But it was too late. If you think this is a fairy tale, open your eyes and ears. It’s happening RIGHT NOW! One Big Ass Mistake America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynadude Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The crap we are in now is a result of the Clinton admin., so we won't know the true cost of this admin for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Much better than his successor. Getting things in line for a successful adminstration. Plenty of confidence here' date=' notwithstanding the "say no" Republicans who stand in the way of our future. Besides, the joy of hearing right wingers "whine" is worth it if nothing else were accomplished (which won't happen).[/quote'] You Liberal dumba$$es kill me!:) :) Heymisterk thought your post was perfectly stated... Main Entry: suc·ces·sor Pronunciation: s?k-'se-s?r Function: noun Etymology: Middle English successour, from Anglo-French, from Latin successor, from succedere Date: 14th century : one that follows ; especially : one who succeeds to a throne, title, estate, or office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 This is how we got to where we are take your pick of who's fault it it. :) :) =P~ +:-@ 1 George Washington 2 John Adams 3 Thomas Jefferson 4 James Madison 5 James Monroe 6 John Quincy Adams 7 Andrew Jackson 8 Martin Van Buren 9 William Henry Harrison 10 John Tyler 11 James K. Polk 12 Zachary Taylor 13 Millard Fillmore 14 Franklin Pierce 15 James Buchanan 16 Abraham Lincoln 17 Andrew Johnson 18 Ulysses S. Grant 19 Rutherford B. Hayes 20 James A. Garfield 21 Chester A. Arthur 22 Grover Cleveland 23 Benjamin Harrison 24 Grover Cleveland 25 William McKinley 26 Theodore Roosevelt 27 William Howard Taft 28 Woodrow Wilson 29 Warren G. Harding 30 Calvin Coolidge 31 Herbert Hoover 32 Franklin D. Roosevelt 33 Harry S. Truman 34 Dwight D. Eisenhower 35 John F. Kennedy 36 Lyndon B. Johnson 37 Richard Nixon 38 Gerald Ford 39 Jimmy Carter 40 Ronald Reagan 41 George H. W. Bush 42 Bill Clinton 43 George W. Bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 This is how we got to where we are take your pick of who's fault it it. +:-@ +:-@ +:-@ 1 George Washington 2 John Adams 3 Thomas Jefferson 4 James Madison 5 James Monroe 6 John Quincy Adams 7 Andrew Jackson 8 Martin Van Buren 9 William Henry Harrison 10 John Tyler 11 James K. Polk 12 Zachary Taylor 13 Millard Fillmore 14 Franklin Pierce 15 James Buchanan 16 Abraham Lincoln 17 Andrew Johnson 18 Ulysses S. Grant 19 Rutherford B. Hayes 20 James A. Garfield 21 Chester A. Arthur 22 Grover Cleveland 23 Benjamin Harrison 24 Grover Cleveland 25 William McKinley 26 Theodore Roosevelt 27 William Howard Taft 28 Woodrow Wilson 29 Warren G. Harding 30 Calvin Coolidge 31 Herbert Hoover 32 Franklin D. Roosevelt 33 Harry S. Truman 34 Dwight D. Eisenhower 35 John F. Kennedy 36 Lyndon B. Johnson 37 Richard Nixon 38 Gerald Ford 39 Jimmy Carter 40 Ronald Reagan 41 George H. W. Bush 42 Bill Clinton 43 George W. Bush Thanks Mick! I highlighted the problems that led us to this point! I appreciate the list!!!!! =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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