PaulWM Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230414084549&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 No it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibsonAlmighty Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 It doesn't what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 It doesn't look fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfreak909 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 Looks fake, Gibson serial numbers are usually painted over, However specs change and Gibson sometimes makes runs that are not consistent with rules of other models. I've heard people say some standards and customs are fake because they have an ABR-1 bridge instead of Nashville. There are many factors, but if you are unsure don't buy it, buy a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 It IS a 2003 Les Paul Classic 3 pickup. Not Fake. Classics have six digit serial numbers inked NOT stamped on the headstock. The guitar is legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillybilly Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 served served served Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 The only suspicious thing I see is the photos - some people think art shots are a good way to sell instruments. It also happens to be a favourite of fakers, since it hides details. Not that I'm saying it's fake, I just think it's a dumb way of selling a guitar. Who's going to pay $3000 for something they can't even see good photos of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillybilly Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 you would be surprised. personally, i ask for detailed and numerous pics. i like to get one with the guy holding a copy of today's newspaper or something. scammers wont even respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 Knob placement [check] Headstock angle [check] ABR1 bridge [check] Maple cap in horn [check] Nibs [check] Proper binding for 03[check] Inlay color [check] Tuner bushings [check] ect'.... It's good [check] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWM Posted December 19, 2009 Author Share Posted December 19, 2009 It IS a 2003 Les Paul Classic 3 pickup. Not Fake. Classics have six digit serial numbers inked NOT stamped on the headstock. The guitar is legit. I thought the serial number system was the same for all Gibsons, which does it not apply to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 I thought the serial number system was the same for all Gibsons' date=' which does it not apply to?[/quote'] The Les Paul Classic uses a serial number similar to the way pre-1960 Les Pauls were serialized. Back then, it would be "9 XXXX" where "9" represents 1959. The Les Paul Classic started using the same style - "4 XXXX" would be a 1994 guitar. Because production spanned multiple years with the same "ones" place, they had to go to six-digit numbers. I don't know exactly which numbers are which year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfreak909 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 The only suspicious thing I see is the photos - some people think art shots are a good way to sell instruments. It also happens to be a favourite of fakers' date=' since it hides details. Not that I'm saying it's fake, I just think it's a dumb way of selling a guitar. Who's going to pay $3000 for something they can't even see good photos of?[/quote'] I totally agree. If I purchase a guitar off of ebay I want simple high res pics, not some artsy angles and creative lighting. On the other hand I forgot Classics were either hand painted or decal under the clear coat for serials however I wasn't aware of a 3 pickup classic, and the serials on classics are smaller and less apparent than on other Gibsons. Go check it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 Listen to Axe it's real and nice a BB with frets that work not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 The Les Paul Classic uses a serial number similar to the way pre-1960 Les Pauls were serialized. Back then' date=' it would be "9 XXXX" where "9" represents 1959. The Les Paul Classic started using the same style - "4 XXXX" would be a 1994 guitar. Because production spanned multiple years with the same "ones" place, they had to go to six-digit numbers. I don't know exactly which numbers are which year.[/quote']4-5 digits ('89-'99), 6 digits (2000+). The "94" = 1994 serial number format was ONLY used in 1994, because it was the year of Gibson's Centennial, so the format would have looked something like this: "94000001" and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Yo .........you ever play a 3 pup guitar......owwwww cat bit me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdown Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 As Axe said. Pic #1 was proof enuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneguitar Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 It's legit, why are you guys arguing with Axe. He answered in the 2nd post. it.s real period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmaker Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I used to own one of those. Nice guitar but I would want better pics before I would buy this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I did not read the rest of the thread but just after looking at 2 of the pics of that guitar you can tell is legit. I am not a huge fan of 3 humbs but this thing looks fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Looks fake' date=' Gibson serial numbers are usually painted over, However specs change and Gibson sometimes makes runs that are not consistent with rules of other models. I've heard people say some standards and customs are fake because they have an ABR-1 bridge instead of Nashville. There are many factors, but if you are unsure don't buy it, buy a new one.[/quote'] When everything else fails, look for nibs. Real IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 It's legit' date=' why are you guys arguing with Axe. He answered in the 2nd post. it.s real period.[/quote'] Indeed, there was no need for him to elaborate on it, if AXE says its real, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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