garyelcrrt1281733995 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Your quoting scriptures to a bunch of Epiphone-ians? We're not allowed to use fowl or abusive language on this forum. Forum rules say so. The asterisks are to hide certain non-Epiphone names of guitars pr short form derivatives of them to keep the mods from deleting entire threads. Oh! I thought he couldn't spell Epiphone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 Your quoting scriptures to a bunch of Epiphone-ians? We're not allowed to use fowl or abusive language on this forum. Forum rules say so. The asterisks are to hide certain non-Epiphone names of guitars pr short form derivatives of them to keep the mods from deleting entire threads. Gotta wonder about someone on a guitar forum that has trouble with this one. I'm not sure if he actually thinks I was hiding a "profane " word or is attempting to be funny and say that Strat IS the "profane" word. Yeah, we've lost alot of threads in the last two days for non-Epi related threads ! Some good ones too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan 58 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Your right Layboomo,my strat is a mutt of my chooseing.It started as a 96 standard strat that came with a so so neck with next to no finish and buzzy PUs. I put a warmuth boat neck ,vintage tint neck on it, and a GSF wirered pick guard. Now its the strat of my dreams.As I said ,to me, it still sounds like a fender but its not your dads strat thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Every hunter owns a rifle AND a shotgun. If you own a Strat and a Paul, you are ready for most types of music. A Tele isn't a bad addition to the arsenal either. I own both, but tend to gravitate toward the thick, woody sound of the Paul. When I play my Strat, I love the 2 and 5 pup positions, but the overall sound of the single coils is thin compared to my Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Every hunter owns a rifle AND a shotgun. If you own a Strat and a Paul' date=' you are ready for most types of music. A Tele isn't a bad addition to the arsenal either. I own both, but tend to gravitate toward the thick, woody sound of the Paul. When I play my Strat, I love the 2 and 5 pup positions, but the overall sound of the single coils is thin compared to my Paul.[/quote'] Yes dave but is it an over/under or semi-auto.......just havin' fun with ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 semi-auto....... Robot guitar...:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted May 10, 2008 Author Share Posted May 10, 2008 Robot guitar...:-) Or S-1 or Roland ready Strat ? Not that I have any first hand experience on any of the above ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEPI Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 My .02 here says Strat if you're only using one guitar on stage. For me, a Strat is far more "versatile" than a Gibson Les Paul but my Epi LP seems to be much more versatile than the Gibby. Maybe its the stock, cheapo pups and the way I use my tone knobs, I dunno..........J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted May 10, 2008 Author Share Posted May 10, 2008 My .02 here says Strat if you're only using one guitar on stage. For me' date=' a Strat is far more "versatile" than a Gibson Les Paul but my Epi LP seems to be much more versatile than the Gibby. Maybe its the stock, cheapo pups and the way I use my tone knobs, I dunno..........J[/quote'] No disagreement here on the versatiliy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acousticworship Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Strats are hands down more versatile. I can't think of a style of music other than Metal that isn't played on a stock Strat by professionals, and you could even play that with a 'bucker in the bridge. Go to a rock concert, you'll probably see a Strat. A Blues concert, same thing. Jazz, you bet. Gospel, heck yeah. Country, yep. I think of Les Pauls as more straight up rock guitars and darn good ones, but not as good at other genres, IMO. You won't find many jazz players playing Les Pauls, for example. Or generally anyone that needs good cleans. You can always add dirt to a clean signal, but it's hard to clean up a dirty one. Now, I've owned two Strats and have sold both, because I don't like the floating bridge and really prefer short scale. But you have to admit, they're the most versatile guitars out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted May 10, 2008 Author Share Posted May 10, 2008 Strats are hands down more versatile. I can't think of a style of music other than Metal that isn't played on a stock Strat by professionals' date=' and you could even play that with a 'bucker in the bridge. Go to a rock concert, you'll probably see a Strat. A Blues concert, same thing. Jazz, you bet. Gospel, heck yeah. Country, yep. I think of Les Pauls as more straight up rock guitars and darn good ones, but not as good at other genres, IMO. You won't find many jazz players playing Les Pauls, for example. Or generally anyone that needs good cleans. You can always add dirt to a clean signal, but it's hard to clean up a dirty one. Now, I've owned two Strats and have sold both, because I don't like the floating bridge and really prefer short scale. But you have to admit, they're the most versatile guitars out there. [/quote'] Just out of curiosity, What is your issue with floating bridges ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy1281734003 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hi guys, as far as versatility for me I use a strat in a band that plays a wide variety of styles, but on my own time I prefer the sound and feel of an LP. Truth be known I love em all for what they are, it would be like having to decide wich one of your kids you like better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acousticworship Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Just out of curiosity' date=' What is your issue with floating bridges ?[/quote'] I plam mute a lot, and do some pretty agressive arpeggiated flatpicking, which tend to pull the floating bridge out of tune. I used to run all 5 springs to try and keep it from moving as much. I've owned an American Standard and a Japanese '62 Reissue, but I never bonded with either one. I can play a Tele better. If I ever do get another Strat, it will be a hardtail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted May 10, 2008 Author Share Posted May 10, 2008 I plam mute a lot' date=' and do some pretty agressive arpeggiated flatpicking, which tend to pull the floating bridge out of tune. I used to run all 5 springs to try and keep it from moving as much. I've owned an American Standard and a Japanese '62 Reissue, but I never bonded with either one. I can play a Tele better. If I ever do get another Strat, it will be a hardtail.[/quote'] Man, you must have a heavy hand bro, If SRV didn't have problems, I wouldn't have thought any one could ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkwire Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Strats are hands down more versatile. I can't think of a style of music other than Metal that isn't played on a stock Strat by professionals' date=' and you could even play that with a 'bucker in the bridge. Go to a rock concert, you'll probably see a Strat. A Blues concert, same thing. [b']Jazz, you bet.[/b] Gospel, heck yeah. Country, yep. I agree with you on the versatility of Strats, but I have never seen a Strat at a jazz show. Jazz FUSION...Jazz ROCK...SMOOTH Jazz, certainly...but those are entirely different things. I saw Oscar Peterson at the 2006 Monterey Jazz Festival. Ulf Wakenius was playing guitar with him. He was playing a...Les Paul! It sounded great, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share Posted May 11, 2008 I agree with you on the versatility of Strats' date=' but I have [u']never[/u] seen a Strat at a jazz show. Jazz FUSION...Jazz ROCK...SMOOTH Jazz, certainly...but those are entirely different things. I saw Oscar Peterson at the 2006 Monterey Jazz Festival. Ulf Wakenius was playing guitar with him. He was playing a...Les Paul! It sounded great, by the way. Yeah, I never considered the Strat a jazz guitar, or have personally seen it used as such, other than in progressive jazz situations. That was the whole purpose of fender developing the jazzmaster, which wasn't a big success in the genre either ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acousticworship Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Man' date=' you must have a heavy hand bro, If SRV didn't have problems, I wouldn't have thought any one could ![/quote'] I guess so. I can play them, but never bonded with them. Plus, I'm very tone sensitive and even the slightest bit of out of tune runs me nuts. I'm just more of a Tele guy, and of course I'm loving my Casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 One does usually see, traditionally...semi, or full acoustic/electric Archtops, in Jazz, but I have seen some great "Jazz" players, using Telecasters, Strats, and Les Pauls, too. So...no "hard" rules, there...whatever works, I'd say. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acousticworship Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 I agree with you on the versatility of Strats' date=' but I have [u']never[/u] seen a Strat at a jazz show. Jazz FUSION...Jazz ROCK...SMOOTH Jazz, certainly...but those are entirely different things. Yeah, you're probably right. I know very little about Jazz, or the different classifications thereof. I know that around here in Louisiana there are groups that call themselves jazz and many use Strats, but they are probably more fusion/funk/blues/zydeco jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 One does usually see' date=' traditionally...semi, or full acoustic/electric Archtops, in Jazz, but I have seen some great "Jazz"players, using Telecasters, Strats, and Les Pauls, too. So...no "hard" rules, there...whatever works, I'd say. CB[/quote'] I have also seen strats used at jazz gigs. My friend who is studio/pickup player and in 2 or 3 local jazz bands just rotates his guitars at shows. He owns more strats but has the big body Gibsons too. No matter what he plays he always gets his tone. No one has complained yet about him playing jazz on a strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Yeah, with great players, it really doesn't matter. They have a habit of making anything sound good, huh? ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 I have also seen strats used at jazz gigs. My friend who is studio/pickup player and in 2 or 3 local jazz bands just rotates his guitars at shows. He owns more strats but has the big body Gibsons too. No matter what he plays he always gets his tone. No one has complained yet about him playing jazz on a strat. I agree that in the right hands' date=' the guitar is a minor consideration, if any. I just don't see them as a [i'][/i]typical choice by most taditional style jazz guitarists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I agree that in the right hands' date=' the guitar is a minor consideration, if any. I just don't see them as a [i'][/i]typical choice by most taditional style jazz guitarists. My friend is a strat guy. His first real guitar was an early "Squire" made in Japan with Amercian parts. I have a Tele from the same period. He has several vintage big body Gibsons too and if the job requires it ie a high paying private county club type gig where there is some sort of visual expectation then he brings his Gibsons along and leaves the strats at home. Several of the Jazz bands he plays in depending on the venue also work in some other songs and the strats let him cover more bases as he is the only guitar player in these bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 My friend is a strat guy. His first real guitar was an early "Squire" made in Japan with Amercian parts. I have a Tele from the same period. He has several vintage big body Gibsons too and if the job requires it ie a high paying private county club type gig where there is some sort of visual expectation then he brings his Gibsons along and leaves the strats at home. Several of the Jazz bands he plays in depending on the venue also work in some other songs and the strats let him cover more bases as he is the only guitar player in these bands. Makes sense to me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 One does usually see' date=' traditionally...semi, or full acoustic/electric Archtops, in Jazz, but I have seen some great "Jazz"players, using Telecasters, Strats, and Les Pauls, too. So...no "hard" rules, there...whatever works, I'd say. CB[/quote'] YUP!! Ever see Danny Gatton play Jazz on a tele? It would change your mind for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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