ken361 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Look at the sg's, the body contours are the exact same as a gibsons and the head stock also. Prob the same guitar who knows. but I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Another thing...there seems to be the Elitist Riviera's (6 and 12 string) in Cherry and Sunburst, STILL AVAILABLE, on this site! So, that begs the question...why are they not allowed, or readily availble HERE, anymore?! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I believe that's an old catalog that's somehow still on the web, and not the line-up currently available. I don't think any of those acoustics has been in production for some time, and the Elite has not been used since the line-up's launch. Plus, some of that artwork, like the horse motif, was used years ago in Epiphone catalogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I believe that's an old catalog that's somehow still on the web' date=' and not the line-up currently available. I don't think any of those acoustics has been in production for some time, and the Elite has not been used since the line-up's launch. Plus, some of that artwork, like the horse motif, was used years ago in Epiphone catalogs. [/quote'] OK...that makes sense. Sorry, temporary insanity, brought on by too much excitement, I guess?! LOL CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 "I believe that's an old catalog that's somehow still on the web, and not the line-up currently available." doesn't really makes sense because: 1. gaaki (or whatever it is) is a functioning company that sells guitars now...why keep links active for ordering? 2. gibson headstocks were never part of the old elite line, or the elitist line, for that matter 3. epiphone USA has never referred to any elite / elitist as having 50s / 60s necks in the model name, as far as I can tell but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRouteDu Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 This mite be a site where another dealer in japan is makeing them and selliging them. just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Well, whichever the case may be, It would be nice to know if all those models ARE available, still. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 "I believe that's an old catalog that's somehow still on the web' date=' and not the line-up currently available." doesn't really makes sense because: 1. gaaki (or whatever it is) is a functioning company that sells guitars now...why keep links active for ordering? 2. gibson headstocks were never part of the old elite line, or the elitist line, for that matter 3. epiphone USA has never referred to any elite / elitist as having 50s / 60s necks in the model name, as far as I can tell but who knows?[/quote'] I'm going to have to find my old catalogs where the Elite line was introduced then later changed to Elitist. I don't remember the Gibson headstocks. I could be wrong I'll have to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I'm going to have to find my old catalogs where the Elite line was introduced then later changed to Elitist. I don't remember the Gibson headstocks. I could be wrong I'll have to look. Gibson style headstocks were/are used on Epiphone's Orville, Orville by Gibson, Epiphone LQ, and Elite/Elitist guitars in Japan. You wouldn't have seen that style headstock on a USA bound Elite. It would be nice if all the Elites pictured were still available. No one would be happier than me. If they were, though, you'd think some of the enterprising folks who run the Japanese guitar import sites (like guitargai) or sell on eBay would make a few of them available. Besides, if that line up on that website was current, why wouldn't the Nick Valensi Riviera be on it? THAT was the last new Elitist introduced. No, the line up featured on the site is the one from 2003 or so. In fact, the 2004 Epiphone catalog contains those exact models (and the same Hatch Show Print artwork shown in some of the pictures of the acoustics). But who knows? Epi does make a lot of cool things available to the Japanese market. We got to get us some Japanese forum mebers who can tell us for sure! Speaking of Elite headstocks, if you look at the Epiphone catalog in which they were introduced, you'll see the Elite acoustics pictured had the same headstock shape now used on the Masterbilt guitars, but I don't think many if any production models actually were issued with them. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 "Besides, if that line up on that website was current, why wouldn't the Nick Valensi Riviera be on it? THAT was the last new Elitist introduced." maybe because it was discontinued and replaced by the stock model... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRouteDu Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Yeah the Eliteist Nick Valensi guitar is no longer made, just the Std. And i went to that Jap site and they hade a Tak Mosistuersjrksdfskjf how ever you say it elietist guitar with the Gibson head stock. Unless they been makeing those for a long time? Dont really know..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 "Japanese" site...please LaRouteDu. The War was over 53 years ago. And, this goes all over the world, so I would respectfully ask you not to use disparaging connotations, about people of other nations. I'm sure you didn't mean anything by it, really...but it can be offensive to people. Cool? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRouteDu Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Sorry dident mean to be offensive. I appoligize if i offended enyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Sorry dident mean to be offensive. I appoligize if i offended enyone. That's OK...it was just a little reminder. I've been "reminded" myself, a time or two, about things I didn't realize might be misinturpreted. LOL! Cheers, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I'm going to have to find my old catalogs where the Elite line was introduced then later changed to Elitist. I don't remember the Gibson headstocks. I could be wrong I'll have to look. You can download the .pdf of the original Elitist catalog from the Epi site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eor Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 per google (all elite) lp standard plain top, gold top and custom = 124,000 yen = $1,150.72 lp standard flame top = 142,000 yen = $1317.76 sheraton = 178,000 yen = $1,651.84 riviera = 152,000 (6st) or 160,000 (12 st) = $1,410.56 or $1,484.80 byrdland/broadway = 242,000 yen = $2,245.76 the extant ones are all cheaper on musicians friend, and that is before crazy international shipping prices. if you were to find one in a store, it would probably be even cheaper still. this is unfair- i still want the defunct ones, but for that kinda cash, i might rather take my chances on the used market, should one actually ever turn up. but if you gotta have it, that's what you're looking at. assuming you read japanese and can actually get through the ordering process. maybe gakki has a more "usa friendly" ebay presence? other japanese vendors do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRouteDu Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 wow thoses are some good wads of cash. Id love to get a plain top tho....hum....mabay ill just click randomly till i get to a order sheet......probely wount work....but hey...a guy can dream.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eor Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 yeah, the sunburst plain top and the wine red custom are doing it for me. maybe the riviera, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRouteDu Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 You think its possibul to get a pettition signed for them to make the headstocks like that over here in america? Im sure if we can get a couple million people to sign thell make a change.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Anyone try to order a guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRouteDu Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 We really need a translater........or can enyone understand Japanease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 We really need a translater........or can enyone understand Japanease? Schitt' date=' we need a translator so we can understand [i']you[/i]! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 look what I found at ishibashi: 59 LP w/ burstbuckers is that the fabled long tenon I spy in the PU cavity : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 look what I found at ishibashi: http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ishibashi.co.jp%2Fwebshop%2Fguitar%2Fepiphone%2Flp%2Dcustom%5Flq.htm&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2 In the list of Epiphone models, it says, "Res Paul". Not kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eor Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 maybe these guys can help: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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