old rock Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I have two broken tuners on an EPI LP JR. I cannot find Epi replacement tuners so I would like replacement recomendations. I suppose Gibson or Grovers but don't have a model number. I don't mind enlarging the holes or making new holes for screws. Got any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billybob Dylan Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I bought a used LP Jr recently. I put the Grovers, that I took off my Dot, in the Jr. despite the Grovers being a tad too big. I just drilled out the holes with a 10 mm. (or was it an 11 mm.?) bit. No worries, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I put Grover Vintage Green Keystones in my '57 Jr. RI. If you have the $100 Jr. and want to save a few bucks check out GFS tuners. I just put a set of their Vintage Greens in a G-400. I needed to get the larger set of bushing with them. The bushings that come with the tuners are 8 mm which may work with your guitar, I dunno. They are only $23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burstbucker1281734065 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I have replaced the tuners on two guitars; one I had to enlarge the holes. I used gibson replacement Grover tuners from GC and they worked great. Be careful enlarging the holes in the headstock to avoid damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I put some regular Grover "Rotomatics" on my Faded (TV Yellow) LP double cutaway... and it not only helped tuning, but the added weight, seems to have increased the sustain, too. (Might be "wishful thinking," but it sure seems like it, to me!) I just plugged the extra hole left at the top of each turner (from the originals ones), and dabbed a little matching yellow paint, and it looks "factory!" Oh, I didn't have to enlarge the holes for the posts, at all. But, it was fitted with Gibson tuners w/ sleeved screw-in bushings, originally, so I don't know if your situation would be the same, or not? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frpax Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 If I were you, I'd try to NOT ream out the peghead holes. I have no idea what size yours is now, so what you shoud do is measure them both in fractions of an inch AND in millimeters so that you can know that the tuner you get will work. Some sellers use inches, and some use millimeters. If you have both on hand, then you'll know right off without having to go remeasure. There are 2 main sizes that most tuners adhere to: 11/32" for "vintage"style (like Klusons) & 13/32" for Grovers and most other modern styles. Does your Epi LP have the white, oval tuning buttons? 3-on-a plate or 3 individuals-on-a-side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rock Posted July 1, 2008 Author Share Posted July 1, 2008 Thanks to all for the information on the tuner replacement. It's good to see some very good options. frpax "Does your Epi LP have the white, oval tuning buttons? 3-on-a plate or 3 individuals-on-a-side?" The (6) original tuners (3 individuals-on-a-side) are "no-name" chrome colored with 2 screw holes each. I assume the tuner knobs are plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 GFS tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumblinman Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Are they the tuners with the odd pyramid-type shaped back? I just took a set of those off my Jr. 5 are good, one is crooked. The holes are pretty fricking tiny, I had to drill them out to install my other Epi tuners from my LP. Must have changed sizes between 1995 and 2007 at some point. Unless they made smaller ones specifically for the "Junior"? /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Does your Epi LP have the white' date=' oval tuning buttons? 3-on-a plate or 3 individuals-on-a-side?[/quote']Umm.. frpax.. what particular brand of reality are you subscribing to? Epi LP Jrs were not made in the fifties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frpax Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Do they look like these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frpax Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Umm.. frpax.. what particular brand of reality are you subscribing to? Epi LP Jrs were not made in the fifties. I guess I'm not following you. I'm simply asking what type of tuners he has on his guitar. I do believe he specified an Epi LP Jr. I have two broken tuners on an EPI LP JR. I cannot find Epi replacement tuners so I would like replacement recomendations. I suppose Gibson or Grovers but don't have a model number. I don't mind enlarging the holes or making new holes for screws. Got any ideas? Yep, that's what he said. Now, I'm certainly not an Epiphone expert, as you "appear" to be... I'm just trying to help the guy... I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rock Posted July 2, 2008 Author Share Posted July 2, 2008 I made an attempt to upload a couple of photos of a complete Epi Tuner. I have the photos on photobucket. They are a bit blurry but you can see enough detail. http://s316.photobucket.com/albums/mm359/oldrock707/th_TUNER1.jpg http://s316.photobucket.com/albums/mm359/oldrock707/th_TUNER2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Umm.. frpax.. what particular brand of reality are you subscribing to? Epi LP Jrs were not made in the fifties. He's probably thinking of a Melodymaker. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Umm.. frpax.. what particular brand of reality are you subscribing to? Epi LP Jrs were not made in the fifties. Back then I think the similar model was called Melodymaker. A '57 would be worth a few bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carverman Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 He's probably thinking of a Melodymaker. ?? Epi Jrs were not made in the 50s/60s, but Gibson did have a LP Junior as early as their 1960 catalog alongside the Melody Maker (sunburst). It was available in cherry red ($132). Source: 1960 Catalog in book; Gibson Guitars (Ted McCarty's Golden Era) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frpax Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Old rock, try www.guitarfetish.com and see if Jay has something that will work for you. Prices are outstanding, and he ships fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rock Posted July 2, 2008 Author Share Posted July 2, 2008 Thanks frpax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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