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yeah, i guess i got it from my dad. he doesn't play much anymore, but i always like to let him take my new guitars for a test drive. little tradition now.

 

anyhow, this thing is ridiculous and amazing and ricdicumazing.

 

first, the bad:

-there is small paint run in the top. i'm guessing that's what it is, because it doesn't seem to reflect light they way the figuring in the top does.

-two small orange peel spots in the headstock. (invisible from more than 3 inches away, though)

-back of headstock was damaged in shipping- a slight crack that was repaired and refinished. no change in sound or structural integrity, just a small, lighter spot by the elitist logo.

-small chip in the wood on the fhole, right under the pickguard screw. either someone bumped it or was overzealous about installing the pickguard. it is covered by the guard, but i usually take those off.

 

the good:

-everything else ;)

-plays amazingly. neck is thin-ish but not overly so. the elitists have a "55" profile right? (between a 50s and 60s neck :D ) frets unobtrusive, action was decent. some buzzing in random spots, but i hate 10s anyway so i'm going to have to get it set up my way.

-the sound- wow. i don't even know how to describe it. it has a ethereal, ghostly quality too it. even unplugged. like a chatoyance, but arual. it shimmers. which isn't to say that it isn't all there, or it sounds weak.

-the pups- the neck is just wonderful. the jury is still out on how i feel about the bridge, considering how i expect to use it. i'm getting along with it more that i initially did. i can appreciate its purpose and i know what it is supposed to do, but i don't know if i can make it work in an eor context yet.

 

still formulating thoughts and opinions, but so far, i feel pretty good about it. a little disappointed that the fit/finish isn't up to the elitist standard that i know, but it is pretty minor in lieu of the sound. it is an 2007, by the by.

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While they get a lot of applause from the people who own them, I think the Sheratons are still underrated, at least by those who don't have one. Back when they were made in Kalamazoo, I felt that they were on a par with the Gibson thin guitars, and certainly not a poor man's Gibson.

 

I expressed my dissatisfaction that Epiphone discontinued the Sheraton Elitist, but they didn't reply.

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That is an absolutely BEAUTIFUL guitar !! =D>

My "regular" (non Elitist) Sheraton II has such a haunting tone, that I can't

even imagine how good yours must sound.

Its really cool that your Dad is a player.......mine played mandolin but

hasn't touched 1 in a long time......I might just surprise him with 1

for Christmas.

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Wow EOR, she sure is pretty! Welcome to the club and thank you for creating more GAS for me! I've got one in Natural but I would love a second in the VS! Sigh...I wish they were still in production.

sheraton1.jpg?t=1226837900 That guitar actually got me back into playing on a regular basis after many years of lollygagging.

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Wow EOR' date=' she sure is pretty! Welcome to the club and thank you for creating more GAS for me! I've got one in Natural but I would love a second in the VS! Sigh...I wish they were still in production.

[img']http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x263/svetkt88/Guitars/sheraton1.jpg?t=1226837900[/img] That guitar actually got me back into playing on a regular basis after many years of lollygagging.

 

Hey Svet, if I can find one for you online, will you buy it?! O:)/

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i'd love to hear from other owners to compare their impressions to mine.

 

ok, i'm getting a little more aquainted with it. can't tell yet if it just a new guitar thing or i'm really bonding with it. i just leave it out and i keep going back to pick it up. it definately needs a setup and some new strings, the 10s or 9s or whatever are too wiggly and they aren't staying exactly in tune.

 

gonna try it out today with my "real" amp, been playing it through my old practice amp for the last two days. still getting used to the mini-bucker idea. i'm learning how to use them and play up their strengths, but i still don't know how they'll work for what i do. still really digging the beguiling, ethereal sound this thing makes. you can hear it unplugged, and it comes through the amp, too. also loving the feel, the quick neck and the action. pretty good upper fret access for a guitar like this, but i never really go up there anyway.

 

appreciate the comments- its good to be part of the club. :-k/ it is sad that a guitar this good had to be discontinued. i remember us *****ing in the feedback forum, but they never responded. guess the regular sheratons are selling well enough. this thing is far superior to many gibsons that i've played. i bet i could walk into a guitar center right now and easily blow half of them off the walls with this thing. poor svet, i don't know how he sleeps at night with only one elitist sheraton. O:) i think the discontinuation of the sunburst even before the axing of the line is what pushed me over the edge. though i wouldn't mind having a natural one now...

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after doing a little more research today, i game to find the following formula-

 

sheraton + tubes x loud = awesome

 

i didn't mess with the clean channel much as i know its a winner already, so i spend the day rocking out. it can handle more gain than i expected it to. and i threw a lot at it. surprising. doesn't have the warm, low end gut punch sound of my es 333, but it is more in your face and articulate. articulate = unforgiving. you can't hide your mistakes on this thing. [-X still breathes and shimmers; wonderful sustain. didn't take it up to stage volumes, but i didn't have any feedback issues, although it is a little easier to coax than through my other semi. the sheraton would work really well with a bass, and or a warmer, fatter guitar, like a les paul. would sound really great in a mix, and bring lots of really neat textures, especially in the low to mid gain arenas.

 

hopefully tomorrow i can bust out all my pedals and see how that works. and i still need to order some of my hard to find strings and maybe get this thing setup at some point.

 

and also, what's the deal with the binding inside the fretboard? the racing stripes that go down the neck. never seen that on any guitar out there. strange, in a cool way.

 

and yes, now i'm curious about the casino, and pretty much any guitar in this shape in its various configurations and iterations. not that i could afford to. :-k

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Man, I love the looks of that Sherry! Every time you guys post pics of your new axes, I start drooling. My other half was not happy when I told her I bid on another guitar on the bay and won it. I certainly was happy, because it was my first Elite. I say first, because I will have another Elitist one day. Perhaps a Dot, or a Sherry or Casino. Or all 3!

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For those of you who own the Sheraton, could you confirm the nut width

 

is it 43mm ( 1 11/16ths ) or 41mm ish at 1 5/8ths.

 

Is the neck maple or mahogany ?

 

For those of you that own a few of the Elitiists including the 335 DOT, the Byrd and the Broadway

how do you rate the Sheraton ?

 

Can you get a bit of the full on big box Jazz sound and a bit of the 335 bluesier sound with those mini buckers ?

 

Thanks

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if i find a ruler, i'll check the dimensions.

 

further findings-

 

-it doesn't like flatwounds. and i do. i just love the feel and sound of flats. but i now know that they just don't work (for me) on 'hog guitars. i adored flats on my old sheraton (with the maple neck) but on the elitist version (with the hog neck) it is just too warm and flubby. like slapping away on an upright bass. a neat sound, but not what i want. kills too much of the natural chime and vibrato of the guitar. the guitar doesn't "breathe" like it first did. same deal on my es333, which also has a hog neck. what the flats did do was bring in a lot more of that low and low mid "gut punch" that was missing before, making it much closer to the 333 (and an lp, for that matter) and its full sized humbuckers. would be a cool recording trick to do one track with regular strings and one with flats.

 

so back to regular strings, i guess. strangely, it sounded jazzier with regular strings. the sheraton loves solid state cleans, too.

 

-its ability to handle inapproriate levels of gain is remarkable. even better than my old sheraton with the full hums. this thing is not afraid to rock. very, very violently. clearly not its intended purpose, but this thing sure is versatile.

 

-also, the screws are really, really soft, so maybe don't try to remove the pickguard. :D ](*,) ](*,)

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