stabarah Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 can you guys name all of the rockers that used black beauties ( epi or gibson ). Just to give me an idea of the sounds i can pull off with this bad boy. So far I know : -jimmy page - black beauty bigsby - neil young - black beauty bigsby ,Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28v6r Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 How about this one ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-LES-PAUL-CUSTOM-PETER-FRAMPTON-CUSTOM-SHOP_W0QQitemZ110332186345QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item110332186345&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Peter Frampton?? Zal Cleminson - Nazareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ef_in_fla Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Billy Jones from the Outlaws (rip). One of my faves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Randy Rhoads, Ace Frehley, & Ted Nugent also use(d) BB's occasionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin134 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I never knew randy used a Black Beauty, but found a couple pics doing a quick search, only live shots I could find of him with a les paul was with his white 2 pup custom, no live shots with the Black Beauty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 when did neil ever use a black beauty? btw, there is a pretty detailed thread on this from about 6 months to a year ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin134 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Herman Munster of course: Amy Winehouse with a Epiphone(not sure she actually played it or if it was just a photo op): A couple of notables who played Two Pickup Black Beauty's(I have always thought of a true Black Beauty as being only the 3 pickup models, not sure if that is correct or not though) are Pete Townsend(The Who) and Steve Gaines(Lynyrd Skynyrd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugatu Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 28v6R is right, Frampton played one and did indeed have a signature model. (I assume 28 was unsure, by the question mark) He played the Gibson: Just google image "Peter Frampton" and you get many good quality images of him (young and old) with a special Black Beauty in hand. Plug in that Wah pedal for maximum Frampronization! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lister Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Edited by OP The following account is bull***t, and a test to see who was awake out there (good job CB and Nelson). Believe it or not a version of the account was actually printed in a leading guitar magazine about Peter Frampton some time ago. Just goes to show.... Peter Frampton was who the 3-humbuckered Les Paul was made for!Supposedly' date=' it was made by a private luthier who had gone to a Humble Pie concert and noticed that Frampton was frustrated with his LP sound. So the guy shows up backstage a few nights later, gives Frampton his creation FREE. Frampton says something like, "well anything is better that what I have" takes the guitar onstage and the rest as they say is history.[/quote'] Hit every BLUE NOTE baaaby..., I'm going to play on:-" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Gibson Les Paul Custom (3 humbucker version) was introduced in 1957 (correction), according to the Gibson Les Paul Book (page 18). So, that would have been awhile before "Humble Pie," or Frampton's introduction to that model, custom made, or otherwise. Peter may have had a custom made version, from a private luthier, or even Gibson, but it was not the first version, by a long ways. ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Gibson Les Paul Custom (3 humbucker version) was introduced in 1960' date=' according to the Gibson Les Paul Book (page 18).So, that would have been awhile before "Humble Pie," or Frampton's introduction to that model, custom made, or otherwise. Peter may have had a custom made version, from a private luthier, or even Gibson, but it was not the first version, by a long ways. ;>) CB[/quote'] Last year I sold my 1958 Les Paul Custom with threee PAF humbuckers and late 1957 pot codes(for enough to buy about eighty Epiphone Les Paul Customs). The first three humbucker'ed LPCs showed up in mid-1957...Frampton's LPC was an original...the story is bullsh1t. Gibson reissued the three pickup LP Custom in about 1976 after Frampton Mania created a market and it was around for a couple of years Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alanhindle Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Herman Munster of course: Amy Winehouse with a Epiphone(not sure she actually played it or if it was just a photo op): Sorry, I'm confused. Can somebody clarify for me which picture is the one of Herman Munster and which is the one is of Amy Winehouse? Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Yeah, I missed a period (need to change my glasses, I guess?), in that article...it said from '57 on, you could get either a 2 or 3 pickup version. Apparently both were called "Black Beauties," because of their Black finishes, and extra binding, gold hardware, more "bling!" The earlier versions were called "Fretless Wonders," as well...because of the thinner/lower frets, but after '57, it says they were no longer referred to, that way, as the newer "jumbo" frets were "standard," apparently. I had a '68 (Reissue) in '68...and it was called a "Fretless Wonder," again...at that time. It also had the lower, thinner frets....which I had changed, to the fatter ones, for my preference. Another guitar, I wish I had never sold!! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Sorry' date=' I'm confused. Can somebody clarify for me which picture is the one of Herman Munster and which is the one is of Amy Winehouse. Alan[/quote'] LOL! Actually, Amy looks pretty GOOD, there!! She's certainly had her "moments," though...no doubt! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 somewhat related thread: http://forums.epiphone.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=757 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Yeah' date=' I missed a period (need to change my glasses, I guess?), in that article...it said from '57 on, you could get eithera 2 or 3 pickup version. Apparently both were called "Black Beauties," because of their Black finishes, and extra binding, gold hardware, more "bling!" The earlier versions were called "Fretless Wonders," as well...because of the thinner/lower frets, but after '57, it says they were no longer referred to, that way, as the newer "jumbo" frets were "standard," apparently. I had a '68 (Reissue) in '68...and it was called a "Fretless Wonder," again...at that time. It also had the lower, thinner frets....which I had changed, to the fatter ones, for my preference. Another guitar, I wish I had never sold!! CB[/quote'] Two humbucker'ed Les Paul Customs from 1957 -1960 are as rare as hen's teeth...I've seen ONE in thirty odd years of looking and it was a white one.. I've owned a '55, a '56 and a '58 Les Paul Custom and I currently own (since 1974) a '69/'70 that strangely dates to 1966 by the serial number (not possible that it's a '66 ) with mixed '69 and post '70 features-small volute/stamped "made in USA"/'69 pot codes/pancake body but with a mahogany neck that is a kinda rare factory-custom cream white like the SGs of the early 70's (now YELLOW) version (with "CUSTOM" trc) with very low but wide frets and also a 2000 version that is much "whiter" but has more of the thin, low frets of the 50's models with a kinda thick 50's neck and a Nashville bridge. The '70 and the 2000 both have maple caps. George Gruhn once said he thought at first the '70 was a very early production model from '68 when they thought they were going to reissue them in white and maybe knocked a few off before switching to black but a lot of the other features are from 1970 or later so that can't be either...when I first got it it had black speed knobs but four reflector cap knobs were in the case...originally it should have had witch hat knobs...and the case is a gold-lined rectangular case that came with the '68s...very weird guitar to say the least....maybe it's a fake lol The 50's LPCs were solid mahogany. As far as famous Black Beauty players, Neil's "Old Black" was a re-sprayed gold top not an LPC but John Fogerty and Albert Lee both have also used them...Albert Lee's was given to him by Eric Clapton who I believed previously used it for the Live Peace In Toronto show with Lennon. Mickey Baker of "Mickey and Sylvia" and his jazz course books fame had a few factory custom Black Beauties made for him in the 50's that had much different control configurations and these have come up for sale at incredibly ridiculous prices. I wish I hadn't sold my '50's LPs either but the first two I sold to be able to buy other guitars and the last one I sold to help my son get a house and to pay my ex-wife off the money I owed her from our divorce. I sold my '58 in October of 2007 (after trying to sell it for almost a year) and six months later they were going for almost double and I wanted to kick myself but now the ones that are actually being sold are going for less than what I got so I don't feel as bad. There are no sure things in life and especially not in the vintage guitar world. Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin134 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think Amy's the 1st pic and herman is the 2nd???..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarxBros Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Two humbucker'ed Les Paul Customs from 1957 -1960 are as rare as hen's teeth...I've seen ONE in thirty odd years of looking and it was a white one.. I've owned a '55' date=' a '56 and a '58 Les Paul Custom and I currently own (since 1974) a '69/'70 that strangely dates to 1966 by the serial number (not possible that it's a '66 ) with mixed '69 and post '70 features-small volute/stamped "made in USA"/'69 pot codes/pancake body but with a mahogany neck that is a kinda rare factory-custom cream white like the SGs of the early 70's (now YELLOW) version (with "CUSTOM" trc) with very low but wide frets and also a 2000 version that is much "whiter" but has more of the thin, low frets of the 50's models with a kinda thick 50's neck and a Nashville bridge. The '70 and the 2000 both have maple caps. George Gruhn once said he thought at first the '70 was a very early production model from '68 when they thought they were going to reissue them in white and maybe knocked a few off before switching to black but a lot of the other features are from 1970 or later so that can't be either...when I first got it it had black speed knobs but four reflector cap knobs were in the case...originally it should have had witch hat knobs...and the case is a gold-lined rectangular case that came with the '68s...very weird guitar to say the least....maybe it's a fake lol The 50's LPCs were solid mahogany. As far as famous Black Beauty players, Neil's "Old Black" was a re-sprayed gold top not an LPC but John Fogerty and Albert Lee both have also used them...Albert Lee's was given to him by Eric Clapton who I believed previously used it for the Live Peace In Toronto show with Lennon. Mickey Baker of "Mickey and Sylvia" and his jazz course books fame had a few factory custom Black Beauties made for him in the 50's that had much different control configurations and these have come up for sale at incredibly ridiculous prices. I wish I hadn't sold my '50's LPs either but the first two I sold to be able to buy other guitars and the last one I sold to help my son get a house and to pay my ex-wife off the money I owed her from our divorce. I sold my '58 in October of 2007 (after trying to sell it for almost a year) and six months later they were going for almost double and I wanted to kick myself but now the ones that are actually being sold are going for less than what I got so I don't feel as bad. There are no sure things in life and especially not in the vintage guitar world. Nelson[/quote']I hear you, I sold off about $175k of guitars in the last 2 years, timing is everything, and no one has a crystal ball to tell you the best time. You pick your place and you take it as it is. I do regret selling my 56 LP Custom, even though they are not "the" model it was sweet though it was a bit rough in looks it played wonderful. In the end I was, and still am, on a quest to get my finances in line as much as possible. Cars as well as guitars went. I sold off my 2001 Camaro SS, my heavily modded 10 second 1992 Eagle Talon and a lot of vintage Pontiac Ram Air IV and ultra rare Ram Air V parts too, I sold heads and intakes and motors for several thousand dollars making a huge profit, who knows a few more years they may have sold for double, or half. Markets are impossible to call. If you got what you wanted at the time I guess that's all that matters. Hey, happy new year, hope for all the best for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stabarah Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 does amy even play guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 does amy even play guitar? Yeah, she uses a white Gibson Melody Maker, quite often...or DID. There are quite a few photos, of her with that guitar, especially. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stabarah Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 when shplays does it sound like a dying cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28v6r Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 when shplays does it sound like a dying cat? Errr..... To much of the Egnog there Amigo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 when shplays does it sound like a dying cat? Errr..... To much of the Egnog there Amigo..... Egnog....is that anything like eggnog , paisan ? Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostindesert Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Back to topic, John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival). Jan Akkerman (Brainbox, Focus) Dutch virtuoso. Jimi Hendrix occasionally used a black Gibson Les Paul Custom, a white 3 pickup Gibson Les Paul/SG and a black Gibson Flying V (on Red House/Isle of Wight 1970) and a hand painted Flying V. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Chico Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Back to topic' date=' John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival). Jan Akkerman (Brainbox, Focus) Dutch virtuoso. Jimi Hendrix occasionally used a black Gibson Les Paul Custom, a white 3 pickup Gibson Les Paul/SG and a black Gibson Flying V (on Red House/Isle of Wight 1970) and a hand painted Flying V. Peter[/quote'] Pretty sure that Robert Fripp of King Crimson used one too. GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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