BluezOldy Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Watch this video then you'll under stand his "BASELESS BELIEFS" Obviously all locks don't require you to drill the hole bigger but some do....... Made my eyes water when he started drilling. I'll stick with my Grolsh washers. I couldn't help wondering why Ernie Ball don't make their straplock buttons the same diameter of the existing screws - unless each guitar model is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alanhindle Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Made my eyes water when he started drilling. I'll stick with my Grolsh washers. I couldn't help wondering why Ernie Ball don't make their straplock buttons the same diameter of the existing screws - unless each guitar model is different. I'm no DIY expert but I would guess that it's more secure to have a new, bigger hole with a fresh thread created by the new screw than to go in and mash up the existing hole by using a screw of the same size. I suppose the more you screw and unscrew in the same hole the less grip there will be. It would be even worse if you believe you're 100% safe when you're actually not. At home, once you've had doors off their hinges more than a couple of times the screws become less and less effective and you're then using matchsticks and/or bigger screws (if the hinge will take them). With anything heavy, whether it's a door in your house or a 10lb Les Paul, you want to make sure that the screws holding it up are fixed securely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiSheriMan Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Maybe I'm being over cautious but I don't like the idea of burrowing in to my guitars to fit a strap lock. I use the little plastic ones you slip over the strap button and then spin round to secure the strap. I've had no problems with them. Alan I've had these pop off,..... So I went with Schallers. Easy to install not drilling,...perfect!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 I am somewhat surprised and chagrined that a simple tip devolved into a debate on the merits of commercial straplock devices and the process of installing them. I at least hope that some people benefitted from this simple reminder of a cheap form of guitar "insurance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I am somewhat surprised and chagrined that a simple tip devolved into a debate on the merits of commercial straplock devices and the process of installing them. I at least hope that some people benefitted from this simple reminder of a cheap form of guitar "insurance". I'm with ya on this one, Ron.... I've been using them for years - maybe not the "prettiest" solution, but they work well enough for me ...... but personally, I prefer to be buying beers with the flip-tops than just buying from a homebrew supplier. (Hey..... I like beer, and "needing" new straplocks is a good excuse to go get some good beer). I used to be a homebrewer years ago, had many of these at one point.....wish I would've held onto them. But, hey ..... a local Kroger has Grolsch in the flip-top format, and a local wine and spirits dealer has a bunch of different uncommon imported beers sold singly in large arsed bottles with the grommet tops as well .... Thanks for this thread (I usually do chime in on the "beer bottle rubber grommet straplock" threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I am somewhat surprised and chagrined that a simple tip devolved into a debate on the merits of commercial straplock devices and the process of installing them. I at least hope that some people benefitted from this simple reminder of a cheap form of guitar "insurance". Thax Ron, I like the tip and fully intended on taking advantage of it.......Unfortunately........ I needed 3 sets. By the time I got done drinking 6 bottles of Grolsch I forgot about the washers and threw them out with the bottles. Guess I'll have to try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 This is an oldie but a goodie - may be of particular interest to newbie players. I just picked up a new supply at the local home brewing store. The rubber washers like the ones that are on Grolsch beer bottles. They were two for a quarter. Of course you can buy the beer' date=' drink the beer and then remove the washers. Put on your strap, slip the washer on next. Strap ain't comin' off.[/quote'] what do these rubber bushings look like??? Seems like a nice alternative... BTW how does Grolsch beer taste??? I'm BBQing some chicken and ribs today and I could use some beer while Qing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Here's a pic. Never tried the beer (or don't remember) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Here's a pic. Never tried the beer (or don't remember) LOL... nice arrow reference on the image (if that was done intentionally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 .. BTW how does Grolsch beer taste??? I'm BBQing some chicken and ribs today and I could use some beer while Qing Grolsch tastes OK, better than US macro-swill (Miller, Bud, etc, etc)...... there are many many imports (and some smaller domestics) I prefer, but ... Grolsch DOES come with the budget "locks" ..... although I have recently seen Grolsch for sale in regular capped bottles ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Showing my age here but I remember back in the early/mid 80's there was a craze for wearing Grolsch bottle tops on your shoes as decoration (something at the back of my brain seems to recall it as part of the Wham phenomenon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alanhindle Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Showing my age here but I remember back in the early/mid 80's there was a craze for wearing Grolsch bottle tops on your shoes as decoration (something at the back of my brain seems to recall it as part of the Wham phenomenon) Oh no' date=' please not! I think I've found it. Is this what you were thinking? http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,933551 (see the first reply) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Oh my god yes - Bros!!! I think I feel ill Thankfully way after my time as was a child of the 60's/70's - Budgie Jackets, loon pants and scoop neck T shirts plus greatcoats and huge flares - long live prog rock!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibplayer Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I am somewhat surprised and chagrined that a simple tip devolved into a debate on the merits of commercial straplock devices and the process of installing them. I at least hope that some people benefitted from this simple reminder of a cheap form of guitar "insurance". Considering the relative merits of the alternatives- Isn't that what a discussion forum is all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 On the topic - i use dunlop "straploks" for a long time and they never failed, they are quite pricey though at 600 czech crowns (30 bucks). About beer :D : i shouldnt bring this up but czech beer is just sooo way better than american beer don't know if you ever had the opportunity but if you get the chance, you definitely should try Pilsner Urquell (hope the spelling is right). I live in Prague by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 The bass player and I both had issues with the nut that holds the hardware onto the strap working loose on our Schallers. This can be something you don't notice until it's too late. A drop of Loc-Tite fixed both of them permanently. My Paul cases are too tight too allow the strap to be left on the guitar, so I prefer something that can be removed quickly. Is the Grolsch washer easy to remove? Or, do you have to leave it on when you case the guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 My Paul cases are too tight too allow the strap to be left on the guitar' date=' so I prefer something that can be removed quickly. Is the Grolsch washer easy to remove? Or, do you have to leave it on when you case the guitar?[/quote'] Yeah, the Grolsch washer comes off quickly enough .... ya just get a good grip on it and stretch it over the strap-pin, then off comes the strap..... after time, it may stretch a bit, feel a bit looser....at which point, you just replace with 2 of the other 4 from the original sixer, or go buy another six-pack It ain't perfect, but it's fairly secure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 19 years ago I broke the headstock OFF a late 60's SG, splintering it down to the 2nd fret on 1 side and the 3rd on the other. I had installed "Mushroom Buttons" on it. Never again will I trust a guitar to anything less than either Schaller or Dunlop positive straplocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 19 years ago I broke the headstock OFF a late 60's SG' date=' splintering it down to the 2nd fret on 1 side and the 3rd on the other.I had installed "Mushroom Buttons" on it. Never again will I trust a guitar to anything less than either Schaller or Dunlop positive straplocks. [/quote'] Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 To quote Dan Erlewine (a luthier of 30 years experience) on the subject of fitting strap locks from his book "How To Make Your Electric Guitar Play Great" p128 : "Generally' date=' a guitar's original strap button, and its mounting screw, are smaller than the replacement parts, so you must redrill the mounting hole to accept the new, larger screw." [/quote'] Interesting comment about the size of the strap button screws as, both from experience and talking to others, it seems that the screws in most of the strap locks are in fact smaller than the originals rather than larger which means that you need to pack the hole not drill it. Maybe by using smaller screws they can reduce costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I tested out the Grolsch strap locks last night at rehearsal on my JL REV, and it would take an act of God for the strap to come off. The only issue is now the strap is married to the guitar (but that's okay). I really only play two of my electrics right now, so I'll just need to purchase another strap..... BTW, my JL Rev fits in the case with the strap, so no issues there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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