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So it's got flame veneer' date=' hell it's not even up to the top Agile specs, at least their top LP has a solid flame maple cap. 59 reissue my ***...[/quote']

 

You my friend are the most ignorant person I have ever seen.. If you don't like Epiphone or don't like what they are doing then just lay off and keep you ignorant, stupid comments to your self..Why the hell are you being so difficult to deal with..?? Do you like Epiphone ??

 

BTW just hope that the guitar would be a bit cheaper...i'd love to get my hands on it..

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You my friend are the most ignorant person I have ever seen.. If you don't like Epiphone or don't like what they are doing then just lay off and keep you ignorant' date=' stupid comments to your self..Why the hell are you being so difficult to deal with..?? Do you like Epiphone ??

 

BTW just hope that the guitar would be a bit cheaper...i'd love to get my hands on it..[/quote']Let's see who is the ignorant one here...one who supports a more expensive less quality guitar, or one who speaks the truth. Continue to suck on the teat of Epi, you need their pabulum sonny.

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Let's see who is the ignorant one here...one who supports a more expensive less quality guitar' date=' or one who speaks the truth. Continue to suck on the teat of Epi, you need their pabulum sonny.[/quote']

 

If you think Epis are quality less and it makes me look ignorant then I am happy to be ignorant old a$$.I guess all the forum members are ignorant then..??...cause I know what I am playing..if you still wanna be so freaking ignorant and an idiot and still hate Epiphone then shut your freaking mouth and leave the forum..cause we don't want people like you..

Epis are trying to be affordable at the same time build quality Instruments...if you still can't get it then go play your s.hitty expensive guitar..and shut the Fk up...you don't have respect for anyone...you my friend are plain ignorant... Do you have friends or are they all idiots as well...??

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If you think Epis are quality less and it makes me look ignorant then I am happy to be ignorant old a$$.I guess all the forum members are ignorant then..??...cause I know what I am playing..if you still wanna be so freaking ignorant and an idiot and still hate Epiphone then shut your freaking mouth and leave the forum..cause we don't want people like you..

Epis are trying to be affordable at the same time build quality Instruments...if you still can't get it then go play your shitty expensive guitar..and shut the Fk up...you don't have respect to anyone...you my friend are plain ignorant... Do you have friends or are they all idiots as well...??

Big talk out of a small mind...I would have been disappointed with anything less. Blather on oh foolish one.
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So it's got flame veneer' date=' hell it's not even up to the top Agile specs, at least their top LP has a solid flame maple cap. 59 reissue my ***...[/quote']

 

Actually, if you read the description completely, it says "a solid maple cap with a highly flamed veneer." Since the flame is purely cosmetic and has no bearing on tone, I see no difference in that and agile's top, which I highly doubt is a solid piece of flamed maple either, at the price point they offer thier guitars. Add in the Gibson pickups, and the non-weight relieved body, and I'm already in line to buy one. Maybe two, one of each finish. :-k

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This guitar could be a really enjoyable alternative to spending 5 grand and having to worry all the time. Does anyone know how much the Epi is going to cost?

 

I would guess about the same as the Slash model with gibson buckers, so probably right around $900 to $1,000. Just a guess, but that's what I'm expecting.

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I am interested in playing that LP special gt. It looks like a copy of the Gibson LP access. I'M not sure if I like that kind of trem on a LP but I'M willing to try it out. :-s/

 

I didn't pay it much mind, but it looked more like a strat style trem. I imagine a substantial loss of sustain versus a hardtail version... and if it is a special, that means a flat top... so probably no extra back carving either, so I doubt you'd get the added upper fret access like on the Gibby LP Access. I think it's just more of an inexpensive Epi LP shaped guitar with a trem bridge... I guess we'll see for sure when more pics and specs become available. Could be really cool, who knows at this point?

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For those interested in comparing Gibson and Epiphone, here is an article I found to be informative:

 

http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/epiphone-les-paul/feb-07/27726

 

From a playability standpoint, the two guitars are very similar. They both have medium frets that are neat, clean, and well seated. The Gibson features a fatter neck carve than the Epi, but both guitars are comfy to play—just different.

 

....so says reviewer and I agree.

but

 

What’s not so comfy, however, are the period-correct, but really dangerous metal indicators on the Gibson’s potentiometers. These sharp metal nubs (commonly called “blood testers”) attach to the posts of all four pots and make it easy to see where the knobs are set—that is, until the knobs are obscured by the player’s hemorrhaging.

 

....*L* I use these. I never hurt myself. You can shred but you can't turn a knob?

sheesh. definately one mans opinion there, but how does that affect our assessment of the rest of his views?

 

Plugging these two Pauls into a blackface Fender Super Reverb provided a lot of insight into what those extra thousands get you. The Epi has plenty of zing and top end, and the Gibson sounds slightly thicker with a rounder treble response. The Gibson definitely delivers a deeper and more detailed midrange, as the Epiphone’s mids are tubbier and duller by comparison. The Epi is more at home pushing the Super into overdrive, where its moderately higher output produces more growl and bite. However, the Gibson still outshines her little sister at this amp setting, exhibiting a much sweeter high end and tons more string-to-string detail. The Epiphone sounds really good, but the Gibson is absolutely inspiring.

 

...ah but we're talking about a stock epi. so let's see what he has to say about the reasons for his perception.

 

First, the pickups. The Gibson’s BurstBuckers sound great, with a richness and vibe that stock Epiphone pickups can’t hang with. Next, the Gibson’s thicker neck certainly contributes to the tone. Finish is another factor, and the open, airy tone of the Gibson benefits from its relative lack of top coat compared to the Epiphone.

 

...Now of these, what are the actual comments made by epi users? Obviously, the pickups account for most of

the difference, and they, as well as the electronics account for most mods.

As to the thicker neck, well. ahem. Seems like a far lesser point since most prefer a slimmer neck profile, and one of the main hot vintage gibbos comes from a period when they slimmed the neck.

You gotta give 'em the finish.. but if epi thinned that poly like we all wish they would just for cosmetic reasons, we're

back to the pups!

 

Well, it’s a TKO for the Gibson, but the Epi certainly isn’t bloodied or viciously beaten. The Epi looks great, plays great, and just needs hipper electronics to be a world-class *** kicker. In fact, installing a set of vintage-correct aftermarket pickups into the Epiphone might get you 90 percent of the way to the Gibson’s tone

 

... I'd like you to note that I didn't read ahead. I read this as I posted it. and had no idea he'd agree with US

so completely.

90% of the way, and you can, in my view get farther.

 

We all know, however, that there’s a certain magic to top-notch wood and finish that is impossible to fully capture with anything less, and the Gibson definitely possesses fabulous woods and an amazing finish. If you can afford it, you’ve got to get the Gibson—it’s that good. If you can’t afford it, don’t despair. The Epi is an excellent alternative that you wouldn’t be afraid to leave unattended on the bandstand.

 

.. I'd say it differently. With new pups and electronics, possible bridge/tail upgrade, perhaps a better nut..

You'd have a guitar you'd be just as proud to play, and just as happy with in your hands, and satisfying enough to

make my origina and unchangeable point.

which is that four epis beat one gibson, hands down.

You simply are not going to be able to compare the guitars without comparing cost.

and no lp will beat an lp, casino, sheraton/dot, sg..

and I think I can safely say now, especially epis!

 

TWANG

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I'll be as honest as I can:

 

I have a Gibson 1981 Les Paul custom, and purchased it new in 1981. And the only reason I purchased the guitar because it was exactly like Randy Rhodes LP Custom. So I had the GC Sales Rep fish it off the wall and throw it in a case. I then paid for it and walked out of the store without so much as putting a finger on the fretboard#-o

 

Basically that night at practice, (to the oohs and ahhs of my fellow band mates). I strap up the 15 lbs. wrecking ball and plug it into my (at the time) Peavy Renown, and start playing. It didnt take long for my displeasure to show on my face and in my playing. Basically it was back in the case after only 25 minutes of playing, and I grabbed my trusty SG....To this day I play this guitar very sparingly

 

Here's the kicker, I was in Samash purchasing my son the dw9000 double foot pedal for his birthday last month. From a distance there was this dark off gray Epi LP, and it was just laying on a random glass display table. So I picked it up and plugged it into a VOX AC50, (The practice amp I have).... To my humbling shagrin that damn guitar felt and sounded better than my (at the time) $1300 Gibby LP Custom:-s

 

That's not to say that my Gibby LP wouldn't please another player, but to me it feels like a 15 lbs. Louisville Slugger baseball bat. The Epi LP felt much more comfortable to play, and had a sharper tone that I prefer. As where my Gibby is a bit warm and mid rangey, which is great if you're gonna play Boston songs all night long.

 

The Gibby LP Junior I just purchased very much feels like that Epi LP I tried back in December, which means it will be played once its back home from my Luthier....

 

Though I'll never purchase a Chinese made Epi, I can state with conviction that for $399, it will be tough to find a better guitar that than strange colored gray Epi LP..:-k

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