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I also have a 2001 Peerless-made Casino (turquoise), a 1997 Peerless Broadway, and a Carlo Robelli ES-500 made by Peerless. All three are wonderfully made and play and sound excellent.

 

I recently played a 70's Ibanez L-5 copy that was selling for nearly 2 grand. It was a beautiful guitar, but it didn't play or sound as good as my modified Peerless Broadway.

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I appreciate all the input. I'm going where no sane man has set foot before: to Sweden to buy a Peerless. If deal goes through I will post pictures shortly & you can all laugh at me. Although you all seem like nice guys, wouldn't do a thing like that ..! Tell me, because I wonder: what is it about Epiphone that makes us have a forum about what is essentially a non-descript middle-of-the-road Chinese-made guitar that might just as well be labeled anything else?

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ITell me' date=' because I wonder: what is it about Epiphone that makes us have a forum about what is essentially a non-descript middle-of-the-road Chinese-made guitar that might just as well be labeled anything else?[/quote']

 

The Peerless Casinos were made in Korea. Some members here have Kalamazoo-built original Epiphones. The Japanese-built Elitists are above middle-of-the-road in quality. Epiphone is a popular brand and there are a lot of electric Epis out there so the forum isn't stagnant like others.

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I appreciate all the input. I'm going where no sane man has set foot before: to Sweden to buy a Peerless. If deal goes through I will post pictures shortly & you can all laugh at me. Although you all seem like nice guys' date=' wouldn't do a thing like that ..! Tell me, because I wonder: what is it about Epiphone that makes us have a forum about what is essentially a non-descript middle-of-the-road Chinese-made guitar that might just as well be labeled anything else?[/quote']I imagine because Epiphone was a brand of its own until Gibson took over... that's why Squier just gets a sub-section of the Fender forum - they weren't.
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I imagine because Epiphone was a brand of its own until Gibson took over... that's why Squier just gets a sub-section of the Fender forum - they weren't.

 

First, the Epiphones produced now have ZERO in common with any made before Gibson bought them. Except for occassionally using some of the names (Zephyr, Emperor, Masterbilt, etc.) and some motifs (the tree of life, the frequensator tailpiece, the stick pin, some headstock shapes), there's nothing about a modern Epiphone guitar that is in any way like one built by the pre-Gibson Epiphone company.

 

Before Gibson bought the failed Epiphone Company in the late 50's, Epi was a Gibson rival that was reknowned for high-quaility archtops. They also made some flatops, and of course banjos and such. No Epiphone model today is a reproduction or reissue of ANY of those. Pre-Gibson, they NEVER made solid-body electric guitar (and today's Epi solid bodies are innumerable).

 

Most Epiphones are budget versions of Gibson guitars or Epiphone-badged guitars made by the Gibson company (or new variants composed of classic Gibson elements), the way Squire is a budget Fender, that's true. The difference is that even when Gibson made Epiphones side by side with Gibsons, they didn't advertise that fact. In fact, they hid it. When Gibson was based in Kalamazoo, they went so far as to use two different entrances to the same building, which were on different cross streets, as the addresses for Gibson and Epiphone. This disguised the fact they were one and the same and in the same place.

 

So, for many, the mistique of Epiphone is based on the fondness and respect they have for these Epiphone badged, Gibson-made guitars. Others value Epi because overall, they market (and now themselves build) very good quality--and even high quality--authorized Gibson copies (for the most part) at an affordable price.

 

While Epi's relationship with Gibson is touted now, Epiphone gets its own forum because it's still a seperate and distinct brand, known not just for providing affordable Gibson alternatives and Kalamzoo-era Epis reissues, but for providing an excellent value in a solid instrument. It's only recently that Squire is getting the reputaion for the latter.

 

...And because nobody on the Gibson forum wants to read all the tiresome "My Epi is better than a Gibson" threads!

 

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