bluelake07 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Might be fun for someone: http://cgi.ebay.com/Epiphone-John-Lennon-1965-Casino-Harrison-Project_W0QQitemZ170309490662QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item170309490662&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsideMan Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 What's going on here? This seems hinky--or do I just not get it? Here are my questions - 1) Why does someone strip down what otherwise seems to be a viable guitar like this? (The bit about it not finishing assembly seems bogus.) 2) Why does someone dig out the serial number and fill it in with wood putty? (BIG hinkiness points here!) 3) If there is less hinkiness than I suspect involved, is this really worth $700 for a carcass in this condition? Just wondering, guys. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWANG Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 all that guys stuff is crap. TWANG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 What's going on here? This seems hinky--or do I just not get it? Here are my questions - 1) Why does someone strip down what otherwise seems to be a viable guitar like this? (The bit about it not finishing assembly seems bogus.) 2) Why does someone dig out the serial number and fill it in with wood putty? (BIG hinkiness points here!) 3) If there is less hinkiness than I suspect involved' date=' is this really worth $700 for a carcass in this condition? Just wondering, guys. Cheers.[/quote'] Gibson did hold a stock of so called carcasses, for any warrenty issues that may have arisen , and some of these were released in a yard sale over the last year or so. My gut feeling is this is one from a returned guitar. As for digging out the serial number, that is bizarre, due to the fact they all had the same one 328393. It is obviously a used and returned carcass, that has ended up back out there, it may well be fine, but I would treat with caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS90 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 As for digging out the serial number' date=' that is bizarre, due to the fact they all had the same one 328393. [/quote'] Thats why it makes sense that the serial router slipped, they began a repair but decided to bin the whole guitar. I have been watching this for a couple of weeks, before it was relisted it was up for over $900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulkhead Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Why don't Epiphone just destroy all their crap rather than de-valuing the brand by selling stuff like this to Ebay dealers who make their cash by exploiting the desire for a high end Epiphone? If you chuck enough stuff into the sea, one day it'll wash right back up on your beach.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS90 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Why don't Epiphone just destroy all their crap rather than de-valuing the brand by selling stuff like this to Ebay dealers who make their cash by exploiting the desire for a high end Epiphone? If you chuck enough stuff into the sea' date=' one day it'll wash right back up on your beach..........[/quote'] For all you know it just has a bit of filler over the serial, what makes it crap? I love projects like this, I have a 1974 Gibson SG which was a 'project' on ebay, and cost me a total of £167. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulkhead Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Crap, because he wants £540 for a guitar that has no serial number, no stickers, no guarantee or warranty, no pick-ups, no tuners, no bridge, no stop piece, no electronics, no knobs - no nothing! It doesn't even look new to me - I'm sure you can see wear and scratches in the picture and the case is broken. GAK will sell you a brand new Casino Elitist (with case) for £999 http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/79384 You may have got a bargain but this is definitely not one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulkhead Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Well I've just checked the price of the Lennon - £1899!! or $2631! http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/epiphone-john-lennon-1965/900 So if you are desperate for a Lennon, you could buy this wreck and fit all the parts and still be quids in but you've still got no provenance, no warranty and no re-sale value. I'd rather have the Elitist - can't see why anyone would want to pay almost double for one of these Lennon guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMcClane5000 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 If only it had the blue sticker inside... but nooooooo that's the problems with these carcasses, no one will pay 1500 bucks for a guitar with no serial number, no matter how good the parts are that you put on it... I think these are dead-end guitars that may find an owner who'll never want to part with it, which seems fine but from a selling point of view this seems like a dead-end. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 DONT DO IT!!! I can speak from experience on this. I purchased two JL Revs, one that just had holes with absolutely no hardware, and another that was half way finished. You'll never find the parts, and you'll just have a guitar that never get finished, especially if you're trying to stay true to the actual specs. The longer bridge in nickel and those nylon saddles are impossible to get... In the end I finally decided to just buy one and save myself the headache. Now if you don't care about specs and you have the patience, then go for it. However for $700 you can get a great working Casino already built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiSheriMan Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 DONT DO IT!!! I can speak from experience on this. I purchased two JL Revs' date=' one that just had holes with absolutely no hardware, and another that was half way finished. You'll never find the parts, and you'll just have a guitar that never get finished, especially if you're trying to stay true to the actual specs. The longer bridge in nickel and those nylon saddles are impossible to get... In the end I finally decided to just buy one and save myself the headache. Now if you don't care about specs and you have the patience, then go for it. However for $700 you can get a great working Casino already built. [/quote'] ...I'm convinced the seller is going to have to accept a major price reduction on this one, up to $400 would seem to a realistic price for such a piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS90 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Well I've just checked the price of the Lennon - £1899!! or $2631! http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/epiphone-john-lennon-1965/900 So if you are desperate for a Lennon' date=' you could buy this wreck and fit all the parts and still be quids in but you've still got no provenance, no warranty and no re-sale value. I'd rather have the Elitist - can't see why anyone would want to pay almost double for one of these Lennon guitars.[/quote'] There you go. £1900. If I could get it for around £400 plus £150 for parts easily sourced on ebay, I would be very happy with it. And what makes it a 'wreck'? Provenance and warranty!? Do you play guitars or just look at them? Get a sense of adventure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I think without the Lennon stickers/serial number it loses its appeal as a Lennon project but for a cheaper price it's worth making into a personalized casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrmatt Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I just think that it's a shame the route that Epiphone has chose to go with the Lennon Casino's. You have several different things floating around in the market, Legitimate first run guitars with all tha candy, another group that was sold last year as refurbs with a "R" stamped on the back of the headstock, "B" stock listed on MF ( I'm not sure how they are marked, 2nd,Used,etc...) and these carcases that were sold bare. If you are buying one of these (especially if it's online.) you had better be darn sure and do your homework. mgm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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