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i'm getting the urge again. want to slap a bigsby on the elitist sheraton. who's done it, which did you use and what did you do with the holes?

 

i'd like to use a b11/or b12, but:

 

-i'm unsure about the tension bar. do i really need one? my gretsch doesn't, and i like it fine.

-i haven't found a clever way to install it without drilling extra holes. vibramate doesn't make one (or return emails), and other solutions are too expensive or too ugly.

-as for the stud holes on the face- i suppose a custom made "custom made" plaque (with my own sayings) might be cool, but i'd rather plug them, if possible. plugs are reversible, right?

 

your thoughts/solutions? pics would be great.

 

ps- i tried the search, but it was a mess

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yeah, the vibramate doesn't work for what i want, and i don't want the extra weight, either.

 

so how do you guys like your tension bars? makes a big difference? also, does the pickguard interfere with the bigsby?

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bump! lets see em' date=' sherri/dot owners :)[/quote']

 

Not a Sherri or Dot... but it is an Epiphone (Casino) with a factory installed Epiphone Bigsby.

 

 

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Here she is before I took the pickguard off...

 

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factory? that's cheating. is that an epi branded b-70 or an epi copy cat thing? i like yours better without the pickguard as well.

 

how do you guys like the bigsby with the stock bridge? any problems? feel the need to change to a roller/bar bridge?

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The stock bridge seems pretty cheap compared to my Korean Schecter with it's Tone Pro Tune-o-matic bridge. I haven't thought much about changing that but it would be a good upgrade if you use the Bigsby a bunch.

 

As to my Epi Bigsby, I have no idea if it is just Branded or what, but it was factory installed back in 1996 on the guitar before it was ever sold so I assume it is a real Bigsby with the Epi brand on it. Likely some sort of deal between Epi adn Bigsby?

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The Vibramate may use the Gibson stud spacing, which I've been told is different from Epi's. I have one on my Gibson SG, and it works as advertised. As to the tension bar, I think the Bigsby will work better with the standard TOM bridge with the bar. That's what I have on my SG (B5, though).

 

Go with a B7 -- they have the right look.

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episheriman- you should have kept it! how bad was the weight? mine isn't the lightest guitar in the world right now- maybe 9+ lbs. which isn't a problem, but i don't want to make it worse. i thought going for the cutout version (b11) with no tension bar would help keep the weight down a little. maybe swap the bridge and pop out the studs, too.

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1 pound, huh. hmm... that is kinda significant. and the zz one looks too elaborate and even heavier than one pound. for reference i played around with the one on my gretsch and it didn't strike me as light, either. well, at least the minis are lighter than the full hums, i guess.

 

still kinda want it, though. mainly to control/modulate feedback and effects, but largely for aesthetic reasons. if i had one on the sheraton (my #1 electric), maybe i'd learn to use it a little better. maybe if i replace the bridge with a popsicle stick. :)

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I have a Dot Deluxe and used a vibramate to mount a B5. It dropped right on, it took about 15 minutes, and it works great. I don't have pics right now cause I am at work but if you are interested I can post a few when I get home. I'm now in the process of getting a Schaller roller bridge to fit.

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doc- i have the same bigsby (and knobs!) on my g6118t. i considered it, but by most accounts (and manufacturer stock) it seems that tension bars are needed for thinline archtops. since you don't have one, could you tell me the difference?

 

i considered a b3, and leaving the sheraton tailpiece on and using that as the tension bar, but i was told that was wrong, dumb and ugly.

 

snow- pics never hurt!

 

since this is going to cost a shitton of money, i may wait until i get settled in my new place first. a gold bigsby with a neat handle and shipping would be close to $300, not to mention the trip to the tech [-(

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Eor,

heres mine before I ditched the stopbar tailpiece.

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I had it on there, but at that time I didnt use the bigsby heavily. The stopbar was just another thing I had to put lube ( lol i know) on. When I went to go get the new wiring harness and TV Jones classics put in the luthier at the shop i go to just left the stop bar off. I guess he thought it was a pain.

 

Leaving the Stopbar on

Cons:

-Pain to string

-Looking stupid

-more to lube, increased chances for binding strings

 

Pros:

-may or may not increase string tension (if it did it was so minute because i have never had a string pop outta the saddles with or without the stopbar

-dont see holes that so down into the guitars private area [-(

 

Basically its more pain then its worth. If you absolutely have to put a tension bar on it, use a bigsby with a tension bar because those spin on a bigsby further facilitating ease of travel. Using a stopbar just increases the chance of binding or strings breaking.

 

The cool thing about the B3 or B3C is that its shorter then a B6 so with the arched top of the 335 style bodys you get a good string angle.

 

I have never had a string slip out of my saddles with my current setup, and I play hard and jump of stuff. [-(

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I just had my guitar tech install a B7 on my Sheraton. It is incredible. The B11 or B12 would be just as good. Chrome stop-bar type plugs were used for the holes. If you are putting a Bigsby on; I would suggest putting a roller bridge on as well. It improves clarity and sustain. Regular saddles put excess tension on the strings... which can cause tunning issues.

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so this is totally going to happen in the coming month or so, after i get settled into the new place. will try to slap a tru arc bridge (brass, i thinking) on it, as well.

 

strangely enough, i got an official reply today from vibramate. definitive answer!

 

Hi ,

Thank you for your note and interest in Vibramate systems.

 

We recommend the Vibramate V5 for your Gibson ES-355.

 

We only offer our V5 to work in conjunction with a Bigsby B5.

 

However check our website for we are continuing to add new product.

Thank you again for your interest in Vibramate!

 

Sincerely,

so and so

Customer Service

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