kacper00100 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I'm in the process of buying an Epi right now and I really need someone to verify if these are legit, I really like the look of the Vintage sunburst one but if its a fake the others will do as well. So here it goes: 1. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-EPIPHONE-LES-PAUL-CUSTOM-ELECTRIC-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ220572458877QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item335b249f7d 2. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Epiphone-Custom-Les-Paul-Electric-Guitar-VS_W0QQitemZ250605538779QQihZ015QQcategoryZ33037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 3. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Les-Paul-White-Alpine-Electric-Guitar-Gator-Case_W0QQitemZ220579681489QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item335b92d4d1 4. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINT-Epiphone-Les-Paul-Custom-Tuxedo_W0QQitemZ330418115027QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item4cee7451d3 So, are they fake, not fake? Please tell me because I'm not good when it comes to things like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken361 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 the EE on the last one looks kind of big? hmm any stores by you sell epi's or craige list? ebay you take gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacper00100 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Well, there's two very small shops in my town which dont sell used guitars which is a shame because sometimes you can get a bargain if you go used and we dont have a craigslist that covers anywhere near me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 The fact that 3 out of the 4 do not accept returns would end the decision process for me. Only the first one accepts returns. Hard to tell by the pics, but looks legit. If you can't send it back, why even consider buying it? That's just my line of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken361 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 smart move, just keep an eye out theres alot of guys on here that know there stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneBoedker Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I bet that 2 and 4 are fakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I bet that 2 and 4 are fakes #4 looks dodgey, but what's wrong with #2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP_CS336 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 the EE on the last one looks kind of big? hmm any stores by you sell epi's or craige list? ebay you take gamble. I agree with Ken361; BTW the EE on my Quingdao, China Les Paul Standard from 2007 are the same size (font) as the rest of the serial number. Good luck in your quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacper00100 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Ive messaged 2 people from my area who are selling these guitars, if I go to see them what things do I look for to tell if they are fakes? Is there like a guide somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKitten Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I'm in the process of buying an Epi right now and I really need someone to verify if these are legit' date=' I really like the look of the Vintage sunburst one but if its a fake the others will do as well. So here it goes: 1. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-EPIPHONE-LES-PAUL-CUSTOM-ELECTRIC-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ220572458877QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item335b249f7d 2. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Epiphone-Custom-Les-Paul-Electric-Guitar-VS_W0QQitemZ250605538779QQihZ015QQcategoryZ33037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 3. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Les-Paul-White-Alpine-Electric-Guitar-Gator-Case_W0QQitemZ220579681489QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item335b92d4d1 4. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINT-Epiphone-Les-Paul-Custom-Tuxedo_W0QQitemZ330418115027QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item4cee7451d3 So, are they fake, not fake? Please tell me because I'm not good when it comes to things like this[/quote'] 1. Yes, without a shadow of a doubt. Scratch plate screw in wrong position, Epi logo on headstock crooked, EE too big on reverse of headstock. 100% fake. 2. Yes, absolutely. Scratch plate screw again in wrong position. A fake. 3. Photo isn't good enough to tell. I would ask for clearer picture of the headstock, and also a picture of the back of the headstock including the serial number. 4. Yes, fake as it gets. Scratch plate screw wrong AGAIN, also headstock diamond logo crooked, EE is too large on the back of the headstock (should be the same size as the numbers following it) and volume knobs are not positioned correctly. Chinese Epiphones sent to the UK market are also not inspected in the USA and therefore should not ever carry an "inspected in USA" sticker. Why would Epiphone send a Les Paul from China to the US just to then have someone look at it, whack a sticker on, and then ship again another 5000kms to the UK? Answer - they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacper00100 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Ok, I asked the seller of the 3rd one for a closeup of the head and one closeup of the body, he also told me that the serial is U04081957. He says the pics should be up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKitten Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Ok' date=' I asked the seller of the 3rd one for a closeup of the head and one closeup of the body, he also told me that the serial is U04081957. He says the pics should be up soon.[/quote'] If the serial starts with a U that's Unsung plant in Korea. Unlikely to be a fake, most fakes claim to be from the Qingdao plant (EE) in China, and some just make up a random letter combination on the front. Jury's out until I see the pics though, including a PICTURE of the serial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanssaab Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 heres one up your way http://inverness.gumtree.com/inverness/26/54427626.html check out other gumtree areas if your willing to travel if you want new check out thomann.de good prices on epiphones and ne fakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacper00100 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 heres one up your way http://inverness.gumtree.com/inverness/26/54427626.html check out other gumtree areas if your willing to travel if you want new check out thomann.de good prices on epiphones and ne fakes Haha, funny story with that. I contacted the person and we agreed on the price and everything but just as i asked him when I can come to pick it up he changed his mind and said he doesn't wanna sell it anymore....i was well gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomer Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I agree with BKitten. No 3. is probably OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacper00100 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Ok, so I decided to give up on eBay since there is too much risk, I found a guitar in my local area....the pictures on this look legit right? http://inverness.gumtree.com/inverness/64/51150864.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardog Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Ok' date=' so I decided to give up on eBay since there is too much risk, I found a guitar in my local area....the pictures on this look legit right? http://inverness.gumtree.com/inverness/64/51150864.html[/quote'] the headstock inlay looks off. i compared it to my black one and the ones listed on guitarctr and the one on this guitar is tighter and up alittle on headstock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungrycat Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 #1 = FAKE #2 = FAKER #3 = Looks OK, but would need more photos to tell for sure. #4 = FAKEST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneBoedker Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 #4 looks dodgey' date=' but what's wrong with #2?[/quote']The pickguard screw is too close to the edge. In addition the knobs don't seem parallel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 #2 & #4 have the rediculously thick nut necessary to compensate for an incorrect headstock angle. #1 & #3 i'm not sure about........... as for the "pickguard screw" not being just right, i've seen a handfull of new Gibson LPs (@ Guitar Center, an authorized dealer) with the side screw actually in the binding, and the top screw leaving a visible gap between the guard and p'up ring. buy from a REPUTABLE seller, OR get a longterm permanent address and return guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneBoedker Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 #2 & #4 have the rediculously thick nut necessary to compensate for an incorrect headstock angle.#1 & #3 i'm not sure about........... as for the "pickguard screw" not being just right' date=' i've seen a handfull of new Gibson LPs (@ Guitar Center, an authorized dealer) with the side screw actually in the binding, and the top screw leaving a visible gap between the guard and p'up ring. buy from a REPUTABLE seller, OR get a longterm permanent address and return guarantee.[/quote'] It's the screw in the middle of the pickguard. This screw seems to be closer to the edge of the pickguard on counterfeit guitars as seen here: (From http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/epiphone-les-pauls/12286-fake-epiphone-thread.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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