richiejb Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I know both of these have the same pickups so my question is what so different about the sound. I'm trying to decide between these two. I love the Les Paul but never had a SG before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Just get a Firebird !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson CS Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Just get a Firebird !!! Ok, I know this is going to piss you off but I HAVE to say it. what the HELL do you like about firebirds? They just look like a retarded cross between a LP, an explorer and a strat. I see you talk about how wonderful they are, do you really like the looks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 If price is the driver, get the SG Standard. Down the road, get the Les Paul Standard. Why go halfway? Shortchanging yourself on the Les Paul Studio makes no sense to me, never has. It was designed as a budget guitar for entry level players, Studio is just a bit of marketing derring-do. $.02 from the guy in Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckledzepplin Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 yeah i'm with Axe on this, go flying http://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?q=firebird&button=search%2Fheader&form=search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I know both of these have the same pickups so my question is what so different about the sound. I'm trying to decide between these two. I love the Les Paul but never had a SG before. The obvious is go out and play them. You'll hear the difference. I have a LP Custom & SG Standard, both have the same 490/498 pups. The LP is definitely meatier. When you start fiddling with the tone knobs, the LP has a much, much wider tone range. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esch Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 They're both great guitars obviously. If I could choose only one I would have to go with the LP. It is the best guitar ever made! The SG is a bit less versatile if you need a work horse that can do everything, especially if you play a lot of covers. BTW if you need to go with a Studio due to cost...don't worry, its a very good guitar and for the price, construction and tone, it is a real LP all the way no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Play an Explorer and a Firebird before you make a final decision ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemunkey Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Maple tops rule... If it ain't got wood, it ain't no good! I've never really liked the sound of an SG before. Way too round and brown for my tastes. I like the edge that a good maple top provides. That said, I really like the Swamp Ash Studios! They've got an excellent sound too! Still Les Paul, but very resonant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi13ts Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 It was designed as a budget guitar for entry level players' date=' Studio is just a bit of marketing derring-do. $.02 from the guy in Arizona.[/quote'] No, it was designed as a budget guitar for cheapskates. Actually the Les Paul Studio is one of the few Les Pauls left that has the Modern Classics as stock pickups. The idea of the Studio is very smart and has brought Gibson lots of money. It's basically a Standard Les Paul without the binding and flamed top. Different pickups also (not worse, but not better). The SG Standard hasn't been quite friendly to me. I never really liked the Modern Classics in a SG (it lacks the maple top). I would prefer a '61 reissue over the Standard. All in all, you should just play both and decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 The point I was making, with a little tongue-in-cheek humor, is why stop short? Get the SG Standard if you really wanna rock, later buy the LP Standard. THAT'S how you build a collection, if that's your eventual aim. If the LP is where you need to go first, save a little more money and do it right. Lotsa Studios get sold for "real" Les Pauls after guys realize they want the binding and nice top. Do they play or sound any different? Doubtful. Still, when you tell somebody you have a Les Paul and they say "Really?" as their eyes light up.... Then you show them your Studio and they say "Oh, it's just a Studio...." not meaning any harm. There's nothing WRONG with them. But to me it's like buying a new Mustang and getting the V-6 engine for fuel economy. WTF? Do want a Mustang, or do you want fuel economy? You got neither one! You got a gas-guzzling, slow-*** chick car. Either get the haul-*** V-8, or go buy a Kia for mileage. Do you want a Les Paul, or do you want an inexpensive guitar? Get the real deal, or just get an Epiphone for cheap. All you Studio lovers are gonna go ape-sh!t, but it's the truth. Admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 YEAH MUSTANGS SUCK TOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Jeez... Am I starting to sound like Cuda? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson CS Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Just get a Firebird !!! im telling you, these kids never learn ;-) im still waiting for a shorter neck firebird, they look soo cool, but i dont dig the long neck they got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Firebird is cool, but kinda pricey.... That's the ONLY reason I haven't bought one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 The neck length is identical to a les paul . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson CS Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 it may be the same scale, but the balence just dosent feel right it feels like the first frets are a mile and a half away =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Scale length, yes. Neck length? I dunno, never thought about it... On a V, it seems like the neck is twice as long because there's no body in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I play a Lester and a Firebird every day , Neck and scale are the same , the Firebird neck seems long because of neck being like a cab forward < lack of a better term for now . like the V and the SG . I cant think of the term , it's late here on the east coast and I'm fried . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi13ts Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Do you want a Les Paul' date=' or do you want an inexpensive guitar? Get the real deal, or just get an Epiphone for cheap. [/quote'] You also have to remember that many guitarists are not particularly looking to build a collection. If they need a certain tone (especially if they're recording more than they tour) any guitar that has that tone will fit. I don't mind saying that I have an ugly Nighthawk or a Studio, because when I plug it into an amp and start the recording machine, it produces a sound like no other. For an Epiphone, I agree that some sound pretty decent, but playability also plays a factor. I find that Epiphones never seem to perfectly blend with me. It keeps on detuning itself and I was never comfortable with one. But if anyone else desires a particular tone from a particular guitar, I wouldn't limit myself just because it's an inexpensive guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptc Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 As said above a '61 reissue SG is a better bet. The pickup tops are in line with the strings for a start, the way they sit on a standard in the big pickguard annoys the hell out of me (it's the same on my '69 Custom). I like the '61 neck much better as well. In saying that, a '92 Les Paul Studio has been my main guitar live and in the studio since I bought it, while fancy flame top reissues have been bought and sold after leaving me cold. I find Les Pauls make me play in a certain way, probably because of the upper fret access, while an SG doesn't influence my playing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredhed Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 This may sound out of the ordinary but I prefer the Studio looks-wise because I don't like binding. I guess years of Strats have ruined me:d/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi13ts Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hahaha, actually I think some colors shouldn't have binding. The multi-tone sunbursts should NEVER have binding. (in my opinion, of course). I wouldn't mind some binding at the neck for Fenders, though. The binding really helps in comfort when sliding your hand up and down the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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