Tman Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The best to me - Jeff Beck. Vibrato to me is about total control of subtle nuances of playing, like overall dynamics. (at least I sound smart and informed - even if not ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57classic Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Milod, another who comes to mind is Charlie Byrd. His choice of guitars is outside the norm for the music he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57classic Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The best to me - Jeff Beck. Vibrato to me is about total control of subtle nuances of playing, like overall dynamics. (at least I sound smart and informed - even if not ) Y'know, I thought about Jeff Beck but so much of his vibrato is with his relentless use of the wammy bar. Even though the end result may sound similar to using your fingers, the aesthetic isn't. I don't know if that matters or not. Clapton never uses a wammy bar and I've read that he blocks the tail piece. Maybe it's just another way to skin a cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexri Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Although a great player. His vibrato wasn't that good. Vibrato has to be in time to be good. ie, Angus Young is awful. In my opinion you need to be a bit sloppy to be soulful, it shows you're human. Vibrato is a very honest guitar effect, it just doesn't sound right to me when it's overly calculated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 i love robert cray's vibrato also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHICTE6JIE&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Yes to Charlie Byrd using classical guitar for jazz... although I personally have some mixed emotions the degree to which it's "jazz" as we tend to think of it, especially the South American material... You could make a case for Django's acoustic work being "something else" in ways, too - although later on he used an electric. Jose Feliciano? Dunno what you call his material. Chet Atkins apparently had some guitars he preferred for doing certain styles, but... I think it's obvious he didn't care all that much whether he was doing Chopin on nylon or steel strings electrified or not. RE: Vibrato... I don't go with the idea that it must match the beat. Vocalists haven't been that bothered by that over the years that I can tell. Some saloon, pop, blues, etc., folks have used a lotta vibrato, some not. Edith Piaf vibratoed more than a fiddle, but her stuff was and is kinda an acquired taste, as has been Sylvia Tyson once of Ian and Sylvia. Vibrato on tube amps in the old days tended to be used pretty sparingly. Whammies were kinda "special effect" thing as used by the better pickers when they first came out, anyway. I had a couple in the old days and blocked 'em from working, myself. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 robert cray is one of a few that can play and sing at the same time and both voice and playing are spot on...beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 To me, vibrato is nothing more than a series of bends, the rhythm of which is a reflection of the feeling you want to put into the tune. I was taught to bend up and pull down for vibrato, but I'm not sure it really matters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tid1rxHm4us Your vibrato is very much a part of your style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 http://www2.gibson.com/Lessons/Arlen-Roth-Lessons/Lesson-Of-The-Week/An-Exploration-of-Vibrato-Techniques.aspx http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Lessons/Lesson-Of-The-Day/bb-king-box-position/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Yes to Charlie Byrd using classical guitar for jazz... although I personally have some mixed emotions the degree to which it's "jazz" as we tend to think of it, especially the South American material... You could make a case for Django's acoustic work being "something else" in ways, too - although later on he used an electric. Jose Feliciano? Dunno what you call his material. Chet Atkins apparently had some guitars he preferred for doing certain styles, but... I think it's obvious he didn't care all that much whether he was doing Chopin on nylon or steel strings electrified or not. RE: Vibrato... I don't go with the idea that it must match the beat. Vocalists haven't been that bothered by that over the years that I can tell. Some saloon, pop, blues, etc., folks have used a lotta vibrato, some not. Edith Piaf vibratoed more than a fiddle, but her stuff was and is kinda an acquired taste, as has been Sylvia Tyson once of Ian and Sylvia. Vibrato on tube amps in the old days tended to be used pretty sparingly. Whammies were kinda "special effect" thing as used by the better pickers when they first came out, anyway. I had a couple in the old days and blocked 'em from working, myself. m And, as with guitarists, a great vocalist uses vibrato as a natural part of the style. In "Rock," Chrissie Hynde comes to (my) mind immediately. Her vibrato is such an integral part, of her style, that she's immediately recognizable. I don't think she calculated that, as much as it was just her natural "style," to begin with. But, either way, I love how and where she uses it. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I've changed my mine.... For me it was this guys vibrato..... His comes from way deep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZMmp89I3mQ&list=UUN5fpMV5-njXJjntUdP6cww&index=1&feature=plcp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I've changed my mine.... From Gold, to Silver, or Coal? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Y'know, I thought about Jeff Beck but so much of his vibrato is with his relentless use of the wammy bar. Even though the end result may sound similar to using your fingers, the aesthetic isn't. I don't know if that matters or not. Clapton never uses a wammy bar and I've read that he blocks the tail piece. Maybe it's just another way to skin a cat. Aahhh but it's the use of the whammy bar and the fingers simultaneously - now that's what I'm talkin bout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Ritchie Blackmore, BB King, Otis Rush, and Mick Ralphs come to mind first for me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCynaoAdP4g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57classic Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Ritchie Blackmore, BB King, Otis Rush, and Mick Ralphs come to mind first for me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCynaoAdP4g Otis, my man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyWheat Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Here he's with the great Mundell Lowe who also could - can - play whatever he wants and have it be classic. Roy's vibrato, bending, etc., is far more subtle in this to the point that,as with BB, you don't even think about it unless you try. Much as I love Roy's playing, btw, it ain't my thing since frankly it's almost as if it's on an different sort of instrument than how I ever was able to approach guitar. m :) Thank you, milod, for reminding us of the truly great Mundell Lowe! I haven't heard his name mentioned in years, but he surely is a fantastic player. And a very happy Christmas and New Year's to you, also. J/W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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