Sonny D Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have a set of GFS Liverpool pups coming on Monday. I was curious if any of you have these wired to enable the option of coil splitting? I am also considering in wiring them for independent volume control. Also any other opinions on these pups or wiring options for these pups would be appreaciated. Oh....I plan to install these in my Dot Deluxe Thanks for any help! Sonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy01 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm not familiar with these particular pickups, but if they have 4 leads they can be wired for coil splitting. Independant volume might be a bit harder, as you would need 2 additional volume controls. Generally these are wired with a "Push-Pull" switch, or a "Push-Push" switch for splitting the coils. After that the volume can be turned up or down. As a general rule you would not be splitting the coils in the middle of a song, so the extra volumes would be redundant. Most of the time the pickup options are pre-selected, for each song. The coil splitting option is mostly to give you more tonal options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I have one of these in my Squier '51, wired for coil splitting, and it sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Independant volume might be a bit harder, as you would need 2 additional volume controls. What, what, what, think you've got the wrong end of the stick here Gordy. Independent volume wiring scheme is achieved with the same number of controls, it refers to being able to independently control the full volume sweep of each pup in the middle switch position, so that turning one of the volumes all the way down will affect only the associated pup, not the other pup as in dependent wiring (the standard Epi scheme). All that has to be done is to swap the pup's hot lead and tone pot wire with the 3-way switch wire at the volume pots, Modern Independent is my favourite scheme, I make that mod on most the guitars I play regularly (more than once a year, LOL). Back to the OP, I have a GFS retron in a few of my guitars and they sound great, the wiring options you've chosen would be very easy to achieve and are quite useful in providing several tonal options on the fly, good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny D Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thanks for the replies! I do plan on wiring modern independent. I'd like to clarify my original post: I was wondering if any of you wired for coil splitting and what are your opinions on the sound. I don't want to install & wire push-pulls if they sound weak and crappy in single coil mode. I also appreciate the input from those of you that have the Liverpools,it's nice to know if I screwed up, I'm not the only one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thanks for the replies! I do plan on wiring modern independent. I'd like to clarify my original post: I was wondering if any of you wired for coil splitting and what are your opinions on the sound. I don't want to install & wire push-pulls if they sound weak and crappy in single coil mode. I also appreciate the input from those of you that have the Liverpools,it's nice to know if I screwed up, I'm not the only one! The retrons I have I think are the Nashvilles, so I can't comment on the Liverpools, though I can't imagine there'd be a world of difference, and the Nashvilles are fine pickups. A coil split bucker's output would typically be about %50 - %60 of the original signal, this can be overcome by having the volume turned down to about 6 or 7 while in normal mode, and when pulling the knob to change into split mode, a simple flick of the volume back up to full would compensate for this change in output levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy01 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 What, what, what, think you've got the wrong end of the stick here Gordy. Independent volume wiring scheme is achieved with the same number of controls, it refers to being able to independently control the full volume sweep of each pup in the middle switch position, so that turning one of the volumes all the way down will affect only the associated pup, not the other pup as in dependent wiring (the standard Epi scheme). All that has to be done is to swap the pup's hot lead and tone pot wire with the 3-way switch wire at the volume pots, Modern Independent is my favourite scheme, I make that mod on most the guitars I play regularly (more than once a year, LOL). Back to the OP, I have a GFS retron in a few of my guitars and they sound great, the wiring options you've chosen would be very easy to achieve and are quite useful in providing several tonal options on the fly, good choice. My mistake RasTus. I assumed he wanted to control the single coil option independantly from the humbucker option. You are quite correct in your reply to the OP. Independant volume with coil split is possible with 2 volume/coil split pots, and 2 tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny D Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 My mistake RasTus. I assumed he wanted to control the single coil option independantly from the humbucker option. You are quite correct in your reply to the OP. Independant volume with coil split is possible with 2 volume/coil split pots, and 2 tones. Exactly! now the question: "to split or not to split" Sonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Exactly! now the question: "to split or not to split" Sonny split Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNick Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Split[thumbup] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny D Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 OK got the pups in and wired up. I'm diggin' the sound! Lots of twang, lots of midrange, not as much low end as your usual humbucker. I think these are the cats a$$ for money! Sonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceTop Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Another consideration is which coil to cut. I always cut the back coil of the neck pu. But the bridge pu works for me either way, just different tones. The back bridge pu coil by itself is brighter, thinner sounding than the front coil. I almost always have to tame it with the tone control. In combination with the neck pu front coil, you can get sort of Tele tones. However, if both front coils are hot (cut the back coils), in combination, it makes for sort of Gretsch tones. Use a tuning fork if you're not sure which coil is hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Looks really good Sonny, nice and unique, that they're giving you the sound you're happy with is a huge bonus, great customization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDEO Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 This thread is what these forums are all about. Guy asks a question, gets excellent advice, goes home happy. Brilliant. [thumbup] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny D Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 This thread is what these forums are all about. Guy asks a question, gets excellent advice, goes home happy. Brilliant. [thumbup] Abso-posiutly!! Love the different opinions, experiences, and knowledge; and those that are willing to share. Thanks all for the great advice! Now if I can figure out how to post pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Now if I can figure out how to post pics congrats on a job well done! Left click turns "Direct" blue. Right click and copy. Click on photo icon. Right click in box and paste. press insert image Your turn. Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Now if I can figure out how to post pics Info on how to post pics is in the DIY thread pinned to the top of the Epi Lounge. DIY Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny D Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 Info on how to post pics is in the DIY thread pinned to the top of the Epi Lounge. DIY Thread Ok, let's give this a try: Hell Yeah! Thanks! Sonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDEO Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Nice looking geet Sonny, hope your'e enjoying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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