Sulimov Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Sorry for the quality. Photo not mine by number:Guitar Info Your guitar was made at the Kalamazoo Plant, USA May 23rd, 1953 Production Number: 234 I do not understand, it's possible ... maybe it really is a Gibson les paul standard 1953 with a few upgrades? p.s. Sorry for my clumsy English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 "1953" I say not genuine no "Deluxe" tuners and the wrong "Epiphone" saddle AND that serial is in a completely wrong font... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulimov Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 and what is it?)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Its Chinese fake of a Classic Les Paul probably made in the last 10 years Most Gibson Les Pauls between 1952-58 where GOLD tops with P90's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Why is it when people post pictures of fake guitars the pictures are always at really weird angles? trying to hid something I suspect. no picture taken seriously unless they are dead straight on (unless you're trying to highlight a nice flame top) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 by number:Guitar Info Your guitar was made at the Kalamazoo Plant, USA May 23rd, 1953 Production Number: 234 No. It doesn't say that on the guitardater website. It says 2003 which, of course, is correct for that serial number. The guitar, on the other hand.............well; it just might be a fake. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 "1953" I say not genuine no "Deluxe" tuners and the wrong "Epiphone" saddle AND that serial is in a completely wrong font... Add to that the bubble head anchor screws for the pup rings - should be flat heads. Too many red flags. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 ...Too many red flags... Yup. No doubt about it. I really don't want to get into the "How Many Can You Spot" game again but there are at least nine 'anomalies' (putting it politely). P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hehe! I see one big anomaly here. It´s a fake. ;) Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon S. Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Definitely a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmwrx Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Absolutely 100% fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd_artist Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 the tuneomatic bridge and stop tailpiece had not been invented in 1953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulimov Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 So bummer. I have thought that I could buy a Epiphone les paul Standard and I can not save up nothing. Can anyone help and give a poor student from Russia to the guitar. In the Name of Friendship. (R286970675144) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 So bummer. I have thought that I could buy a Epiphone les paul Standard and I can not save up nothing. Can anyone help and give a poor student from Russia to the guitar. In the Name of Friendship. (R286970675144) Привет! Будь осторожнее! С такой просьбой Tы нарушаеш правила форума. ;) Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I have thought that I could buy a Epiphone les paul Standard You can, go buy a real Epiphone Les Paul Prolem with this guitar is its a Faked Gibson Les Paul.. not an Epiphone Les Paul guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulimov Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 You can, go buy a real Epiphone Les Paul Prolem with this guitar is its a Faked Gibson Les Paul.. not an Epiphone Les Paul guitar. I know. Just a Epiphone much cheaper and sound not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Привет! Будь осторожнее! С такой просьбой Tы нарушаеш правила форума. ;) Cheers... Bence I was thinking of pointing that out but you did it with more class than I would have managed! P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulimov Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 more overhead meteors explode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I was thinking of pointing that out but you did it with more class than I would have managed! P. Thank You, Pippy! more overhead meteors explode Hello Sulimov! Don't worry about it - no problems! You're new here... hope You don't mind that I pointed out to the customs of the Forum. You're welcome here and I hope You'll enjoy being here as much as I do. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEV1A Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 "This is all such a shame." If China would just not copy and do their own thing, they would have a better product to sell and become more economically sound on their own. Its not these are god awful guitars, generally they are made well. Just Google "China Gibson Les Pauls" and you will see the differences. Look first at the back of the headstock just before the nut. Do you see a "V" shape in the wood. If you have that in a Gibson LP, its not a Gibson USA Guitar. Also, look at the silkscreening and pearl decals on the front of the headstock logos. Compare with a real Gibson and you will see the font differences vividly although they are getting better at the Logo copying. So therefore look close at the side of the Binding as it goes from the side of the neck onto the body of the guitar. If you can see that happening, its not real. Another is that the frets stretch down and over the binding and the copies don't do that. The bodies are usually wider.. bunch of stuff. So before you shell out 300.00 - 400.00 for what you think is a new or reissue Gibson, try these tests. A real Gibson 53 Standard LP Reissue is in the thousands I would think if they even made such a model. The Chinese are clever but even though they copy real Gibson serials they don't check what the numbers actually mean so the serial is usually out of whack too. Sorry man, its a Made in probably North China FAKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 the tuneomatic bridge and stop tailpiece had not been invented in 1953 Just to be a complete pedant yet again... That's what I thought, too, but a couple of years ago none other than George Gruhn's had for sale a 1953 Les Paul Custom complete with ABR-1 and Stoptail. Serial number was, of course, 3 XXXX. It seems that the first LP Customs were actually made at the end of 1953 and not early '54 as is generally thought. O.K. Pedant of the Week time is now over. Carry On ! P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 . The trapeze tailpiece of the '52 Les Paul was bad enough to warrant a redesign for '53. Then by the end of the year they had a bridge and stop tail setup on the Custom - interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd_artist Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Just to be a complete pedant yet again... That's what I thought, too, but a couple of years ago none other than George Gruhn's had for sale a 1953 Les Paul Custom complete with ABR-1 and Stoptail. Serial number was, of course, 3 XXXX. It seems that the first LP Customs were actually made at the end of 1953 and not early '54 as is generally thought. O.K. Pedant of the Week time is now over. Carry On ! P. I should clarify, the tom and stop tailpiece was available on the Les Paul custom in very late late 53 early 54 but did not appear on the Standard actually until 55 or 56. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Sutherland Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Why is it when people post pictures of fake guitars the pictures are always at really weird angles? trying to hid something I suspect. no picture taken seriously unless they are dead straight on (unless you're trying to highlight a nice flame top) Yeah, exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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