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Hi, I need your help for to undetstand one Gibson model.

The serial number is 91563553

Can you say me what model is it?

How can I understand if it is an original Gibson?

Thank you so much

Stefano

P. S. What could be the right price for this guitar? Edited by steyen

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[quote name='steyen' timestamp='[url="tel:1547147105"]1547147105[/url]' post='[url="tel:1971581"]1971581[/url]']
Hi, I need your help for to undetstand one Gibson model.

The serial number is 91563553

Can you say me what model is it?

How can I understand if it is an original Gibson?

Thank you so much

Stefano
[/quote]

According to the serial number that is a 1993 Gibson SG.

From the pics, it has all the '61 appointments. Looks really clean and legit. [img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_smile.gif[/img] Edited by arcticsg

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[quote name='arcticsg' timestamp='1547179283' post='1971640']
According to the serial number that is a 1993 Gibson SG.

From the pics, it has all the '61 appointments. Looks really clean and legit. [img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_smile.gif[/img]
[/quote]

Thank you very much!
Yes it's reissue 61 but without tag.. So I prefer ask to you for understand if it is real original sg reissue 61.
Thank you again.

P. S. What could be the right price for this guitar? Edited by steyen

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[quote name='AngelDeVille' timestamp='1547179993' post='1971644']
Looks legitimate.
[/quote]

I'M very sorry! I have mistake button! I want push +1!
Thank you very much for your answer.

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It's a genuine Gibson SG.
It's not a reissue though. The serial number shows that it is simply a regular USA-line instrument which has 1963-style features so don't pay reissue money for it.

And I +'d Angel back up to +1 for you so that's sorted.

Pip.

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[quote name='pippy' timestamp='[url="tel:1547200423"]1547200423[/url]' post='[url="tel:1971673"]1971673[/url]']
It's a genuine Gibson SG.
It's not a reissue though. The serial number shows that it is simply a regular USA-line instrument which has 1963-style features so don't pay reissue money for it.

And I +'d Angel back up to +1 for you so that's sorted.

Pip.
[/quote]

It is a 1993 Gibson '61 reissue. The Standard 1993 Gibson SG have the batwing (large) pickguard and the long neck joint tenon. The pictures above show the short neck tenon, and angel wing (or tear drop) style pickguard. It also has the reissue holly inlay in the correct position for the '61 reissue.
Those online sites that check serial numbers will only tell you the Year/Date, Factory, and production number. They won't tell you what model it is or even if it's an SG.

Just call Gibson with the serial number and they will tell you exactly what it was when it left the factory. ;)

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The Serial # reads to be a 1993, early June..... but, WHEN IN DOUBT JUST CALL GIBSON CUSTOMER SERVICE in NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, USA @ +18004GIBSON during regular business hours in Nashville. Follow the prompts and then Tell whoever you get in touch with the serial# and in seconds the model guitar in question will be ID'd as it was shipped from the factory: Original Colour, Original Pickup's etc etc for comparison to how it sits now.....GIBSON Customer Service has never failed me.
For comparative pricing check out REVERB DOT COM......I looked , just for general interest,..a '61 Re-Issue...HHHMMMM., the prices are all over the place with no exact match , BUT...$2,000 ? any more than that and I'd pass!
It looks legitimate but I will say those are some Weird-A$$ lookin SERIAL #'s....and its probably the flash from the camera, but still, that looks weird/funny actually. Edited by Wild Bill 212

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[quote name='arcticsg' timestamp='1547205889' post='1971677']...It is a 1993 Gibson '61 reissue...[/quote]
In which case I stand corrected!
I thought that they were called simply a 'Gibson SG Standard 61' and not officially given genuine re-issue status by Gibson [i]per se[/i] as, starting in 1993, the reissues were made exclusively by the Historic Division / Custom Shop and the presence of ink-stamped serial numbers reflected this distinction.
In a similar fashion the USA-line Les Paul '1960 Classic' is frequently referred to as a 1960 reissue but it isn't one - ink stamped serial number notwithstanding.

But, hey, I'm more than happy to admit that I know almost nothing about the SG variants of the last 30 years or so and could be completely and utterly wrong; I was once before so it could well have happened again.

[img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_smile.gif[/img]

Pip.

EDIT : A bit like this current offering in fact. The 2019 Gibson SG Standard '61 built by Gibson USA. No mention of it being a reissue;
[url="http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2019/USA/SG-Standard-61-2019.aspx"]http://www.gibson.co...rd-61-2019.aspx[/url]

...as opposed to this. Gibson SG Standard Reissue built by the Custom Shop;
[url="http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-Custom/SG-Standard-Reissue.aspx"]http://www.gibson.co...rd-Reissue.aspx[/url] Edited by pippy

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No clue what a good price is, but buy it and never let it go like I did.

The one I sold 15 years ago.. and the only guitar I regret selling.

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/8PY0yFnc/C51-D0-DBA-0-AA5-4425-BF1-D-87-A4-DFC75-E24.jpg[/img]


[img]https://i.postimg.cc/SRTvbjSZ/B3-C0473-E-D24-B-4154-A4-E2-6412-BBA73-A01.jpg[/img]


[img]https://i.postimg.cc/GmsS6cZQ/9-AA5-F765-B8-A1-4-D46-AB89-74-BADC9-C9-CEB.jpg[/img]

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ok, thank you all!
I'm buying it for € 1600 (about $ 1840)
until today I only had iBanez, but to play ac / dc, I decided to do this madness! :)

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[quote name='pippy' timestamp='1547210822' post='1971691']


EDIT : A bit like this current offering in fact. The 2019 Gibson SG Standard '61 built by Gibson USA. No mention of it being a reissue;
[url="http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2019/USA/SG-Standard-61-2019.aspx"]http://www.gibson.co...rd-61-2019.aspx[/url]

...as opposed to this. Gibson SG Standard Reissue built by the Custom Shop;
[url="http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-Custom/SG-Standard-Reissue.aspx"]http://www.gibson.co...rd-Reissue.aspx[/url]
[/quote]

the sg reissue 61 was produced only until 2013

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[quote name='steyen' timestamp='1547228519' post='1971734']
the sg reissue 61 was produced only until 2013
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Thank you for the clarification, steyen!
Very nice guitar indeed. I trust you will have a lot of fun with her!

Pip.

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[quote name='pippy' timestamp='[url="tel:1547210822"]1547210822[/url]' post='[url="tel:1971691"]1971691[/url]']
In which case I stand corrected!
I thought that they were called simply a 'Gibson SG Standard 61' and not officially given genuine re-issue status by Gibson [i]per se[/i] as, starting in 1993, the reissues were made exclusively by the Historic Division / Custom Shop and the presence of ink-stamped serial numbers reflected this distinction.
In a similar fashion the USA-line Les Paul '1960 Classic' is frequently referred to as a 1960 reissue but it isn't one - ink stamped serial number notwithstanding.

But, hey, I'm more than happy to admit that I know almost nothing about the SG variants of the last 30 years or so and could be completely and utterly wrong; I was once before so it could well have happened again.

[img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_smile.gif[/img]

Pip.

EDIT : A bit like this current offering in fact. The 2019 Gibson SG Standard '61 built by Gibson USA. No mention of it being a reissue;
[url="http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2019/USA/SG-Standard-61-2019.aspx"]http://www.gibson.co...rd-61-2019.aspx[/url]

...as opposed to this. Gibson SG Standard Reissue built by the Custom Shop;
[url="http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-Custom/SG-Standard-Reissue.aspx"]http://www.gibson.co...rd-Reissue.aspx[/url]
[/quote]

You are correct, they have a Historic/Custom shop version SG re-issue and it is a different beast. It's a beautiful SG, and a bit more expensive (not necessarily a better player though, IMHO). Edited by arcticsg

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[quote name='pippy' timestamp='1547210822' post='1971691']
In which case I stand corrected!
I thought that they were called simply a 'Gibson SG Standard 61' and not officially given genuine re-issue status by Gibson [i]per se[/i] as, starting in 1993, the reissues were made exclusively by the Historic Division / Custom Shop and the presence of ink-stamped serial numbers reflected this distinction.
In a similar fashion the USA-line Les Paul '1960 Classic' is frequently referred to as a 1960 reissue but it isn't one - ink stamped serial number notwithstanding.

But, hey, I'm more than happy to admit that I know almost nothing about the SG variants of the last 30 years or so and could be completely and utterly wrong; I was once before so it could well have happened again.

[img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_smile.gif[/img]

Pip.

EDIT : A bit like this current offering in fact. The 2019 Gibson SG Standard '61 built by Gibson USA. No mention of it being a reissue;
[url="http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2019/USA/SG-Standard-61-2019.aspx"]http://www.gibson.co...rd-61-2019.aspx[/url]

...as opposed to this. Gibson SG Standard Reissue built by the Custom Shop;
[url="http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-Custom/SG-Standard-Reissue.aspx"]http://www.gibson.co...rd-Reissue.aspx[/url]
[/quote]

[quote name='arcticsg' timestamp='1547237704' post='1971767']
You are correct, they have a Historic/Custom shop version SG re-issue and it is a different beast. It's a beautiful SG, and a bit more expensive (not necessarily a better player though, IMHO).
[/quote]

Not sure if its a reissue or not, but it is unusual in that it has a 61 neck joint that was normally only produced in the 60's or for 60's reissue models...

[img]http://solodallas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/img_0683-1024x728.jpg[/img] Edited by mihcmac

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[quote name='mihcmac' timestamp='[url="tel:1547241522"]1547241522[/url]' post='[url="tel:1971780"]1971780[/url]']
Not sure if its a reissue or not, but it is unusual in that it has a 61 neck joint that was normally only produced in the 60's or for 60's reissue models...

[img]http://solodallas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/img_0683-1024x728.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

Beautiful! :)
What year is the Alpine White?

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[quote name='arcticsg' timestamp='1547243162' post='1971787']
Beautiful! :)
What year is the Alpine White?


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Photo from the web, not mine.. The White one looks like a Les Paul Custom "SG style" with a 61 neck joint. or tenon. Edited by mihcmac

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Gibson answered me:


Hi, This is a Gibson USA 1962 Reissue. I hope that this is helpful

What do you think about it?

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Check out what this site says

[url="https://loviesguitars.com/product/rare-1993-gibson-sg-1962-standard-reissue-cherry-plus-coa-ohsc/"]Lovies Guitars[/url]

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[quote name='Big Bill' timestamp='1547647714' post='1972466']
Check out what this site says

[url="https://loviesguitars.com/product/rare-1993-gibson-sg-1962-standard-reissue-cherry-plus-coa-ohsc/"]Lovies Guitars[/url]
[/quote]

this site says little..

the guitar seems the same, but what is the difference with the reissue 61?

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Good find, Big Bill!

[img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_thumbup.gif[/img]

Pip.

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[quote name='steyen' timestamp='1547654749' post='1972488']the guitar seems the same, but what is the difference with the reissue 61?[/quote]
Slimmer neck perhaps?
Ask Gibson...

[img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_smile.gif[/img]

Pip.

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[quote name='steyen' timestamp='1547654749' post='1972488']
this site says little..

the guitar seems the same, but what is the difference with the reissue 61?
[/quote]

Sorry, I thought you would have been impressed that it was a rare SG. Didn't realize you were looking for finer details. It seems you have the same tools as the rest of us here, Google and the phone number to Gibson Customer Service. Good luck my friend, [img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_biggrin.gif[/img] Edited by Big Bill

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[quote name='Big Bill' timestamp='1547660950' post='1972500']
Sorry, I thought you would have been impressed that it was a rare SG. Didn't realize you were looking for finer details. It seems you have the same tools as the rest of us here, Google and the phone number to Gibson Customer Service. Good luck my friend, [img]http://forum.gibson.com/public/style_emoticons/default/msp_biggrin.gif[/img]
[/quote]

Don't worry I appreciate your contribution :)
my english is too poor to call directly to the Gibson Customer Service, but I sent an email to Gibson Customer Service.. they are a bit 'slow to respond [-o<

thank you very much ;) Edited by steyen

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