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So' date=' KSGenius,

 

Obama wants to increase taxes, is therefore a Fascist.

And you will agree, then, that FDR, Wilson, Clinton, LBJ, and Dubya are all Fascists, based on what they did.

So, it looks like a long line of Fascists have been running the country. Jefferson, Lincoln, TR, on and on (they did some unsavory things as well).

 

Maybe Obama doesn't look so bad.

 

Or maybe it is just stupid to call our new president a Fascist, which is my main point.[/quote']

 

Well Rosiepalms, I didn't call Obama a facist...I will call him a SOCIALIST.

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Spoonz and Mrs. Spoonz' date=' I don't care if you and your other liberal comrades can follow my logic, or any other logic...It's a well known fact amongst you liberal elites, that you are correct and us poor, uneducated, superstitious, selfish, "right wing fascists" are wrong. So, I'll just continue to enjoy what I'm doing...thanks!

 

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Oh yes, you're quite right. Every summer at the liberal elite commie atheist retreat, we sit around and decide what we are going to be right about for the coming year. It's quite a grand affair, actually. Lots of snooty wine and cheese types talking about how we're going to take over the country and turn it into a socialist regime so that we can save the poor, uneducated, dogmatic conservatives from themselves.

 

It's rather refreshing to not have to explain what a strawman is for a change.

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Well Rosiepalms' date=' I didn't call Obama a facist...I will call him a SOCIALIST. [/quote']

 

So we agree that Obama is NOT a fascist, and that W is (or, thankfully, was).

 

And it is Mister Rosie Palms to you, if you please.

 

(How's that Logic class coming along?)

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So we agree that Obama is NOT a fascist' date=' and that W is (or, thankfully, [i']was[/i]).

 

And it is Mister Rosie Palms to you, if you please.

 

(How's that Logic class coming along?)

 

We can agree that America has not had a facist president yet, but that Obama is the closest thing to a Socialist that we've seen since FDR. Logic doesn't work well with most libs, you guys are driven by emotion and class envy, Mr. Rosie Palms.

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KSG you can't win this argument. Your position on stem cell research is based from a faith based core. You will need to establish the truth of your faith then prove your god doesn't want stem cell research. Since you can't do either your forced with nothing but hyperbole.

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What got lost in this whole stem cell debate, is whether or not it's good policy to take tax payer dollars to fund embryonic stem cell research. I say no. Here's why, at least half of the country doesn't want to pay for it, there have been no "breakthroughs" in embryonic stem cell research, there have been no successful trials of human embryonic stem cell treatments on human patients anywhere in the world, there have been breakthroughs using chord blood and adult stem cells, there are currently treatments that use adult stem cells that WORK, whether you see them or not, there are moral issues on embryonic stem cell research, research into embryonic stem cells has been going on for years without federal funding. Whoever finds a workable treatment or cure for some disease using embryonic stem cells will be able to make MILLIONS of dollars on the discovery, why would I want to fund that with tax dollars?

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I question your statistic of "half the country" not wanting to fund the research. Even *with* your moral issues, more than half the country supports a woman's right to choose to have an abortion--which seems to be the only basis to your argument. The current research using embryonic stem cells is still in a state of basic science. It's rather difficult to proceed with applied research when the work relies on private donations and labs are unable to compete for government grants. I'd hazard a guess that there's quite a bit of research going on in this country that you'd find some sort of moral argument against and complain that you don't want your tax dollars to fund it. Your moral hang-ups and those of your former president are not sufficient reason to hinder scientific progress.

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What surprises and scares me the most, is the blind faith that you libs have in the government. We have seen just how bad and wrong both liberal and conservative governments have been in the US and every other country in the world can be. We have thousands of years of history to look back on. Do you libs really beleive that the brain trust of Pelowsi, Reid, Obama, Maxine Waters, Feingold, Barney Frank, et al, are going to save us? Do you really think that our government has the mental capacity and expertise to save the country? Wake up...

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What surprises and scares me the most' date=' is the blind faith that you libs have in the government. We have seen just how bad and wrong both liberal and conservative governments have been in the US and every other country in the world can be. We have thousands of years of history to look back on. Do you libs really beleive that the brain trust of Pelowsi, Reid, Obama, Maxine Waters, Feingold, Barney Frank, et al, are going to save us? Do you really think that our government has the mental capacity and expertise to save the country? Wake up...[/quote']

 

No, I don't necessarily think so. I am waiting for results. You just jump to conclusions as if you are reading every liberals mind. If those you mention and many others don't have any results then I will be just as quick to condemn them as I was when Bush fu*ked up this country nearly beyond repair. Your opinions I welcome. I like hearing all ideas. When you start with your endless crap about what you think a liberal is then you are just doing the talking points of a group of losers left over from a political party that should have been revised many years ago.

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You libs make me laugh...terrorists and convicted murderers must be treated with dignity and respect...but the life of a human baby means nothing to you. "A woman's right to choose" sounds better than abortion...That's like the new "Employee Free Choice" bill, it doesn't really describe what's going on, it just obuscates the truth.

 

Enjoy your supreme intellects and new found power...it won't last forever...

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You libs make me laugh...terrorists and convicted murderers must be treated with dignity and respect...but the life of a human baby means nothing to you. "A woman's right to choose" sounds better than abortion...That's like the new "Employee Free Choice" bill' date=' it doesn't really describe what's going on, it just obuscates the truth.

 

Enjoy your supreme intellects and new found power...it won't last forever...[/quote']

 

and again back to the di*k. Go get laid, ppppplllllllleeeeeeaaaaaassssseeeeee!

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But please make sure not to waste any #8^ because that would be murder!

 

 

Apparently, you libs are not only bad with history,government and math classes, you also suck at biology. #8^ is only the "seed"...The embryo comes from mixing the #8^ with the egg...:)

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food for thought on the embryo breakthru reasoning:

 

it (allegedly) took edison hundreds/thousands of failed experiments before inventing the lightbulb. i guess he should have given up after 2 or 3.

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Food for thought' date=' I wonder what cool things Joseph Mengele could have come up with if he had just been allowed to keep experimenting...[/quote']

 

You want to actually make an analogy to Mengele. Your out of your mind. What ever moral compass you use is broke.

How many embryos have you adopted hypocritical self righteous narrow minded.....

 

Every time you got to the doctor they use techniques and meds that have at their roots human and or animal suffering. This is not the case with embryonic stem cell research. The embryos are not in pain.

 

Do us all a favor and be one of those religious nut cases that refuses medical treatment of all kind. That way you wont be a hypocrite and the rest of the free world wont have to deal with your level of stupid for much longer.

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You want to actually make an analogy to Mengele. Your out of your mind. What ever moral compass you use is broke.

How many embryos have you adopted hypocritical self righteous narrow minded.....

 

Every time you got to the doctor they use techniques and meds that have at their roots human and or animal suffering. This is not the case with embryonic stem cell research. The embryos are not in pain.

 

Do us all a favor and be one of those religious nut cases that refuses medical treatment of all kind. That way you wont be a hypocrite and the rest of the free world wont have to deal with your level of stupid for much longer.

 

 

P1ss off union boy!

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