Notes_Norton Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Your mostly a horn player correct? The Beatles music didn't have much horns in it. There was Penny Lane and maybe A Day In The Life. That's all I can think of. Sax, Wind Synth, Guitar, Bass, Drums, Flute, Keyboard Synth/Organ and Vocals Drums were my first instrument, Saxophone/Wind Synth is my primary instrument. I play keys, but not piano (I can play at the piano, but I'm not a pianist) I consider sax and wind synth as one, because depending on the gig, and the audience, I make the choice of either one on many of the songs. l don't need horns to like a band or a song. As long as I like the music, it's OK with me. On the gig I probably play a little more than half on sax or wind synth, a little less than half on guitar, and a few on flute. Vocally, my duo partner is a great singer, I'm an adequate singer, but I sing almost half the songs (I get the easier one). Notes ♫ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, E-minor7 said: Think again, , , , Pepper. . Got To Get You Into My Life had horns. When I’m 64 had a Clarinet, but that is a woodwind instrument and not technically a horn. But still 95% or more of their music is hornless. Edited October 21, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Got To Get You Into My Life had horns. When I’m 64 had a Clarinet, but that is a woodwind instrument and not technically a horn. But still 95% or more of their music is hornless. You introduced horns - Norton plays sax. But there are blown instruments on For No One - Strawberry F - All You Need is LOVE - Mystery Tour - Lady Madonna - Hey Jude - Martha - Mother Nature's - Savoy T and more to come. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: , , , , and more to come. . + 10-15 tracks or so. Let Norton chime in - he's the specialist. 🤓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) I thought 64 had a French horn, but I guess it was 3 clarinets. Edited October 21, 2023 by Murph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 I was listening to one of the newer Re-Mixes of “Got To Get You Into My Life” on Sirius yesterday.. The Plosives were off the chart! So much so I had to change the Station.. And I really LIKE that Song.. I own most of the newer Re Masters & Re Mixes & like most of them.. But, the original Records were done so great that most of the time I go back to them if I want to hear their perfect Recordings.. So much care was especially taken to the Mono Recordings. The EQ, Compression, De Essing, Levels, Balance & FX.. They’re the best.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Larsongs said: I was listening to one of the newer Re-Mixes of “Got To Get You Into My Life” on Sirius yesterday.. The Plosives were off the chart! So much so I had to change the Station.. And I really LIKE that Song.. I own most of the newer Re Masters & Re Mixes & like most of them.. But, the original Records were done so great that most of the time I go back to them if I want to hear their perfect Recordings.. So much care was especially taken to the Mono Recordings. The EQ, Compression, De Essing, Levels, Balance & FX.. They’re the best.. A true fundamentalist has spoken - respect. Personally I like the 09-remasterings and have the CD-box - the black in stereo. Remember we (4 guys) A/B'ed the M/S when they came out. Each person randomly picked 2-3 tracks. To me there was no doubt - S won. But 1 member bought the white M. The new mixes are scientifically intereztinnng - reveals stuff sometimes suggest things as well. . 21 minutes ago, Larsongs said: The Plosives were off the chart! So much so I had to change the Station.. Would like to learn from this - sounds dramatic, don't understand it at all. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Murph said: I thought 64 had a French horn, but I guess it was 3 clarinets. I think Paul’s dad played the clarinet on that track. I may be stoned though. It’s also recored at a different speed and that is why Paul’s voice sounds so high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 15 hours ago, E-minor7 said: You introduced horns - Norton plays sax. But there are blown instruments on For No One - Strawberry F - All You Need is LOVE - Mystery Tour - Lady Madonna - Hey Jude - Martha - Mother Nature's - Savoy T and more to come. . I do not remember horns on Hey Jude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, E-minor7 said: A true fundamentalist has spoken - respect. Personally I like the 09-remasterings and have the CD-box - the black in stereo. Remember we (4 guys) A/B'ed the M/S when they came out. Each person randomly picked 2-3 tracks. To me there was no doubt - S won. But 1 member bought the white M. The new mixes are scientifically intereztinnng - reveals stuff sometimes suggest things as well. . Would like to learn from this - sounds dramatic, don't understand it at all. . Simply.. Plosives are annoying sounds.. Generally Vocalist Sounds like.. PA, KA, GA & others.. Here is a more in depth Video.. One of many.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: I do not remember horns on Hey Jude. Okay, but you didn't remember much horn anywhere. We'll have to dive down the outro anthem - there is a massive of various players unfolding there. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Larsongs said: Simply.. Plosives are annoying sounds.. Generally Vocalist Sounds like.. PA, KA, GA & others.. Here is a more in depth Video.. One of many.. I see, thx ^ so the new mixes brought them forward to an unbearable degree. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: I see, thx ^ so the new mixes brought them forward to an unbearable degree. . No… Most of them are excellent.. Some are better than the Originals.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Larsongs said: No… Most of them are excellent.. Some are better than the Originals.. Just as good, , , and perhaps 'better' via an updated frame of mind. From where the heck did the plosives attack, , , , in the middle of a Revolver track (if you allow a rhyme) . . Edited October 21, 2023 by E-minor7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, E-minor7 said: Just as good, , , and perhaps 'better' via an updated frame of mind. Most of us know re-mixing the icons is like goin' in changing details on a Van Gogh or so. Ahh, Vincent could have used a slightly warmer turquoise there, let's fix that. Pablo would have been better off with zink-white than a titanium-ditto - we'll look into it. I firmly believe there is a nicer table-cloth-yellow under the one Henry ended up choosing. We'll scrape it forward. Ouh, shouldn't Salvador have made those burning camels stand purple against the sunset, not brown-red 😱 Shouldn't the emoji-makers have coloured the upper half of Munch's 'Skriget' green, , , like a toxic headache, not blue. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, E-minor7 said: Most of us know re-mixing the icons is like goin' in changing details on a Van Gogh or so. Ahh, Vincent could have used a slightly warmer turquoise there, let's fix that. Pablo would have been better off with zink-white than a titanium-ditto - we'll look into it. I firmly believe there is a nicer table-cloth-yellow under the one Henry ended up choosing. We'll scrape it forward. Ouh, shouldn't Salvador have made those burning camels stand purple against the sunset, not brown-red 😱 Shouldn't the emoji-makers have coloured the upper half of Munch's 'Skriget' green, , , like a toxic headache, not blue. . Wow. . . that would be some serious editing. (lounge people- forgive my presence in your realm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 49 minutes ago, 62burst said: Wow. . . that would be some serious editing. But is this analogy a step to far. . 50 minutes ago, 62burst said: (lounge people- forgive my presence in your realm) Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, E-minor7 said: But is this analogy a step to far. . Why ? No, the analogy is not a step too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, 62burst said: No, the analogy is not a step too far. 👍 I think the Beatles camp plus Giles Martin and his staff know how sensitive this is. It a tightrope walk between bein' loyal to the old magic / historical document and updating it by adding tine bits and pieces here there and everywhere. . What the future will bring is hard to predict. But in many years to come the heritage will be taken care of by good responsible people : Dhani, Julian, Sean and the Starkeys'n'McCartneys. The kids ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 hours ago, E-minor7 said: Just as good, , , and perhaps 'better' via an updated frame of mind. From where the heck did the plosives attack, , , , in the middle of a Revolver track (if you allow a rhyme) . . Dealing with annoying Vocal Plosives on Recordings is not new.. With todays sophisticated technologies as seen in the one of many Videos I posted, it's even better than it ever has been.. Even for Guys like us.. Leaving them on Beatles Remixes & Re-Masters shouldn't exist.. Particularly when they weren't noticeable on the Original Records... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Larsongs said: Dealing with annoying Vocal Plosives on Recordings is not new.. With todays sophisticated technologies as seen in the one of many Videos I posted, it's even better than it ever has been.. Even for Guys like us.. Leaving them on Beatles Remixes & Re-Masters shouldn't exist.. Particularly when they weren't noticeable on the Original Records... I'll have to check that track ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: I'll have to check that track ^ Is it to be heard here - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, E-minor7 said: Is it to be heard here - That is not the one I heard on Sirius.. Who knows which Mix it was? There are so many! The Mix in the Video is particularly good.. A couple plosives that are almost unnoticeable around 1:17 - 1:20 but overall a beautiful Mix of one of my favorite Songs IMO.. Edited October 22, 2023 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 14 hours ago, E-minor7 said: Most of us know re-mixing the icons is like goin' in changing details on a Van Gogh or so. Ahh, Vincent could have used a slightly warmer turquoise there, let's fix that. That's kind of my opinion and one reason I've never bought a re-mix. Well, except Let It Be Naked. But it was supposed to be Naked. Giles may be a genius and all that, but John never actually approved those changes, did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) I love playing Beatles songs and jacking them up a bit, partly because my group has a really really good singer. When people hear her, they cut her a lot slack because her vocal interpretations are so pleasing. For me just about anything to the accompaniment can be done if the voice is exceptional. Edited October 22, 2023 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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