egoidealmusic Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 So I've recently noticed that there's a slight rippling running with the grain on the side in the waist, only on the underside. There's nothing cracking and you can't really see it at all from the inside. Should I be concerned? Humidity issue? Or just a natural aging thing? 50s J-45 about 3 years old. Will try to post a picture later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoidealmusic Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 Not sure how well you can see it but the reflection of the fan blade shows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) No idea, but just spitballing here: since it’s only on the underside, I wonder if it has something to do with if you play sitting down? The nitro might be reacting to skin oils/sweat if you wear shorts, or maybe even fabric softener? If it was humidity, you’d think it would be affecting other areas. Oh, you don’t have it parked where the sun or a heat source is hitting it on that side? Anyway, hoping it’s just a weird transition cosmetic thing. Like the floors in my house in the winter maybe it will settle back down when the weather moderates. On a reassuring note, guitars move and breathe, and much more so when they are new. It may just be just be still stretching out and limbering up. As you said, if you don’t see the wood moving inside, like a crack or pulling at the joints, it shouldn’t affect the playability. Heck, folks pay thousands more to have Gibson put weirdness in the finishes on the Murphy’s. Edited February 19 by PrairieDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Was there no pebble tossed? Or wind, to blow? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I can's see a thing with the glare on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Murph said: Was there no pebble tossed? Or wind, to blow? Took me too long, and another a cup of coffee to get that. Good one Edited February 19 by PrairieDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I'm guessing it was there when it left the factory. Probably on a Monday when the "Fan Reflection QC Test" guy called in sick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, fortyearspickn said: I'm guessing it was there when it left the factory. Probably on a Monday when the "Fan Reflection QC Test" guy called in sick. I went there too, but it’s been 3 years and he is just seeing it now. And maybe we should have a separate channel for “weird things I’ve noticed on the underside of my bout.” First the “Key crack of January” and now this. I’ve taken to flipping my guitars over periodically just to be safe, chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Did you change your style and start wearing corduroy pants 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I've had that rippling on the side thing before, and it was not from leaving the Bob Evans on a Sunday morning. . . 'went & just looked, but that guitar has already gone to someone else. The closest thing I'd found that could explain it had to do with the process of bending the sides of the guitar at the factory- sometimes internal forces in the grain of the wood try to equalize themselves, maybe it was slightly present before the guitar was finished, and in the interest of not wasting wood, it was located on the side where it would be less noticeable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I have never seen this many issues seemingly popping up with new/newish guitars. Coud just be that folks today have access to a whole lot more information than we did such as forums where they can voice their concerns. Lots of theories. For all I know, it could simply be that in Bozeman's rush to get guitars out the door they are shipping them before the wood has properly dried. Then again, I don't build them, I just play them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, 62burst said: Bob Evans on a Sunday morning. . . I used to live in Rio Grande when Bob was alive, went to school with his son, and I went to the Gallipolis Bob Evans a few months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, PrairieDog said: Took me too long, and another a cup of coffee to get that. Good one Ripple by The Dead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 These all have that. The OPs is a 50s model? Are there supports on the insides or glued strips? I have noticed on a few , there is nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 23 hours ago, Murph said: I used to live in Rio Grande when Bob was alive, went to school with his son, and I went to the Gallipolis Bob Evans a few months ago. I went to one in Charleston, WV on the way home from Michigan last month and had to stop for gas in the morning and it was across the street. Biscuits and Gravy with two eggs over easy never lets you down. The last time I was in one before that was 2015 or so in the Chapel Hill area. And now back to glare and a fan blade reflection on the side of a guitar. Edited February 20 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 20 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: I went to one in Charleston, WV on the way home from Michigan last month and had to stop for gas in the morning and it was across the street. Biscuits and Gravy with two eggs over easy never lets you down. The last time I was in one before that was 2015 or so in the Chapel Hill area. And now back to glare and a fan blade reflection on the side of a guitar. Well that would be a factor too. . 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoidealmusic Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 No side support strips on the inside. I'm guessing that folks who suggested that perhaps the wood wasn't 100% dried are right and the laquer is making these appear. I was worried that it might be too much humidity as I live in a VERY humid region, but it sounds like this is common enough that it can happen anywhere. When it's in the case that's the side that faces down, so I also wondered if that had anything to do with it, but I seriously doubt it. Just another quirk of the Gibson flattop. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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