tom_newton2001 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 This is my wifes Les Paul. Anybody have an idea what happened to the fretboard. It looks like someone really messed it up. I bought off of Ebay when I was in Iraq for her. Of course they didn't state its condition. By the time I got home, it was too late to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Hello Tom, Who cares? Compared to you making it back from hell, the rest is easy. I am very proud of being an old guy in your company. Welcome home brother. Looks like the guitar neck might have been broken once. Looks like a reasonable repair, not great, but reasonable. If it intonates O.K. don't worry if she likes it. If not, sell it and get her a new one. You Both have the rest of your life in front of you. God Bless and best of luck. We try to help but we always care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxst1281733995 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Looks like either the fretboard or maybe just the binding is pulling off the neck... I see a ding in the back of the neck, but no signs that it's been broken... My guess is it's probably just the binding... That should be easy enough to fix with some glue and clamps... I'd also like to join Willy in welcoming you back home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbbysB4Epis Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I too wish to welcome you home. Thank you for all of your efforts and the sacrifices that you and all of our young men and women in the Armed Services are making to keep our wonderful Country safe and strong. God bless you young man. It is an honor to have you as a member of this Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_newton2001 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 I appreciatte all of your comments. It was my pleasure to serve this country. But , I must say this. You don't always have to agree with what this Country does. You have that right. You don't always have to agree with the Leaders of this Country. You have that right. You can speak out about it. That is your right. The reason I bring this up is I am a big John Lennon fan. He was a genius in my opinion. I believe in peace. I want peace. But, I couldn't be against something that I had never experienced. So, here I am. Experienced. I support my Brothers and Sisters in arms. I have nothing but respect for Veterans of all our wars. But, I think enough is enough, Honestly. BRING THEM HOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Isn't that what you were there for? The right to diagree without being exterminated? Sooooo...... What do you think is wrong with your wife's guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_newton2001 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Isn't that what you were there for? The right to diagree without being exterminated? Sooooo...... What do you think is wrong with your wife's guitar? It is just the fretboard lifting a little. And it looks like somebody did a shoddy job trying to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesPaul Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Interesting top on that one. Is it from the mid 90's? There was a silver sparkle on the wall beside my Goldtop with that same look. More on topic, it looks like the nut might have suffered some separation too. Have you pulled off the truss rod cover? I'm wondering if something didn't go awry with the truss rod. I'm mobile at the moment though. So it could just be an illusion of the small screen. Run it by a good reliable tech before you do anything with it. Not to be broken record either but thanks for your service. We wouldn't have forums like this if it wasn't for folks like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxst1281733995 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I appreciatte all of your comments. It was my pleasure to serve this country. But ' date=' I must say this. You don't always have to agree with what this Country does. You have that right. You don't always have to agree with the Leaders of this Country. You have that right. You can speak out about it. That is your right.The reason I bring this up is I am a big John Lennon fan. He was a genius in my opinion. I believe in peace. I want peace. But, I couldn't be against something that I had never experienced. So, here I am. Experienced. I support my Brothers and Sisters in arms. I have nothing but respect for Veterans of all our wars. But, I think enough is enough, Honestly. BRING THEM HOME![/quote'] Right on man... I wasn't going to comment earlier, as I didn't want it to be misconstrued as disrespect, but I've been completely against this war from the beginning... I do, however, respect your service... For the sake of everyone still sacrificing over there, let's hope it's over soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Welcome Home Tom! Thanks! I too, am a big "Lennon" fan..."Give Peace A Chance," and all...but, unfortunately...not everyone in the world, is of that thinking! So, good peace loving folks, like you and others, are tasked to try to keep the "bad guys" at bay! So, we can only hope/pray, that someday...humans will "Snap out of it?" We sure as Hell, haven't learned anything, so far! (End of Editorial Statement)..LOL As to your wife's Les Paul? Could be binding, as was mentioned, or...it could be someone popped the fret board off, by tightening the truss rod, too much. I've seen it before! Any good luthier, should be able to tell you what (really) needs to be done, if anything. Does the damage extend the entire length, of the neck/fretboard, or just that area? Also, there is a kind of "Squiggly" line...under what looks to be around the where the headstock is glued on. That might be a repaird break and refinish (hard to tell, from the photo) or...it may be nothing?? Anyway, if you know a good repair person/luthier...take it in...get an estimate. Might be a quick fix, or if not...it may be worth it, to sell...and replace, use for "parts," etc. Good luck, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_newton2001 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 I don't believe the headstock has been broken off. I think someone was just messing about and didn't know what they were doing, then went to far. I know a good luthier, I'll have him state his opinion. I actually have him doing soem work right now on my 2006 Casino Lim. Ed. With Bigsby. He is installing Grover tuners and notching nylon saddles on the bridge. Trying to give it the vintage look with the nylon saddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyelcrrt1281733995 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Welcome home. My niece's husband is still there. 3rd tour. Well, there will come a change in January 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 As far as your original queation. I am sure that people such as Lerxyst, Iconoclast. Matiac, Garyelcart, Jerrymac, and Twang will have more knowledge. I hope they will chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Sorry Lerxst...Should have known youl'd be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_newton2001 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Welcome home. My niece's husband is still there. 3rd tour. Well' date=' there will come a change in January 2009.[/quote'] Her husband deserves more than he will ever receive. The part of my whole deployment that effected me the most was when we came home. That had a ceremony in St. Mary's Ohio, where the National Guard unit was located. When we got off the bus there were probably 50 Vietnam Veterans standing there. They were saluting us and hugging us and saying "Welcome Home." That choked me up. I looked each of them in the eye and said "Welcome home yourself, This should be for you!" What a moment. I believe change is on the horizon. I hope change is on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I appreciatte all of your comments. It was my pleasure to serve this country. But ' date=' I must say this. You don't always have to agree with what this Country does. You have that right. You don't always have to agree with the Leaders of this Country. You have that right. You can speak out about it. That is your right.The reason I bring this up is I am a big John Lennon fan. He was a genius in my opinion. I believe in peace. I want peace. But, I couldn't be against something that I had never experienced. So, here I am. Experienced. I support my Brothers and Sisters in arms. I have nothing but respect for Veterans of all our wars. But, I think enough is enough, Honestly. BRING THEM HOME![/quote'] Bravo. As a military parent (my son's a career officer in the Air Force) I have nothing but respect for those who choose to serve and I have nothing but complete disdain for the true bad guy criminals in Washington who exploit the patriotism of these extraordinary people for their own greedy and devious ends. Like you, John Lennon was a hero to me on many levels and I am against all war except as a last means of true defense and only then when all avenues of diplomacy have failed. Far too many young people have paid the ultimate price for this folly of a fool and I hope Mr. Bush lives a long life where each day he is faced with his abject failure as a president and as a human being. Thank you for your sacrifice and commitment and welcome home. Now, about your wife's guitar. I'm not sure what's happening there. It could be the binding is pulling away, it could be a poorly done repair job perhaps to the truss rod, it could be the fretboard is lifting. You should probably have someone knowledgeable take a look at it. As someone else pointed out, it doesn't look like it's been cracked or broken and could just be cosmetic in which case it won't be too hard to repair. My first thought was that someone did some fret work or replacement and damaged the binding in the process but without being able to physically examine it I can't really say. Take it to someone and see what they say. Again, thank you, welcome home and the best of everything to you and yours. ...and Al's your uncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 That neck has been broken and repaired. They didn't do a very good job of re-gluing the fingerboard... looks like they just didn't bother to refinish it properly. However it looks mostly cosmetic... it'll probably play okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan 58 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 A guitar for your wife ,now why did'nt I think of that? Thanks for your service,I am a viet nam vet and i'm glad to see you guys are getting a little warmer reception then we did. god bless. Stan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Welcome home Tom Newton, your wife has a nice guitar there...little too flashy for me, my wife loves it! Doesn't look like too much to have to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I appreciatte all of your comments. It was my pleasure to serve this country. But ' date=' I must say this. You don't always have to agree with what this Country does. You have that right. You don't always have to agree with the Leaders of this Country. You have that right. You can speak out about it. That is your right.The reason I bring this up is I am a big John Lennon fan. He was a genius in my opinion. I believe in peace. I want peace. But, I couldn't be against something that I had never experienced. So, here I am. Experienced. I support my Brothers and Sisters in arms. I have nothing but respect for Veterans of all our wars. But, I think enough is enough, Honestly. BRING THEM HOME![/quote'] I totally agree with the entire quote, and I don't agree with our so called "leaders". We are so over there for the wrong reason(s), they don't want us there (for the most part), and for all those kids to to what their doing for the reason G.W. Bush sent 'em there, is wrong. That said, my hat's off to all of you guys, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, all you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefoxicy Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 To be fair, pulling out of an unstable country directly usually results in stuff like Cuba, Haiti, France post-French-revolution (reformed the government 18 times!), North Korea, and Iraq (we messed it up and put Saddam there on our own accord). Haiti and Iraq actually come to mind as the best examples for getting screwed up; but the point is the most politically loud and liberal group in the country gains control. In this instance, this is violent groups of self-absorbed pseudo-religious power mongers (hey I know some really nice muslims, most of them actually don't want to carbomb you!), so we'd ... uh. Yeah, if we left all at once without fixing it, it'd be North Korea with better coordination and bigger balls. :/ Yes it sucks, but let's be realistic about the consequences of leaving a mess (whether you made it or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Tom welcome back and thankyou for your service. Does the truss rod seem to function correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schtang Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Bravo. As a military parent (my son's a career officer in the Air Force) I have nothing but respect for those who choose to serve and I have nothing but complete disdain for the true bad guy criminals in Washington who exploit the patriotism of these extraordinary people for their own greedy and devious ends. Like you' date=' John Lennon was a hero to me on many levels and I am against all war except as a last means of true defense and only then when all avenues of diplomacy have failed. Far too many young people have paid the ultimate price for this folly of a fool and I hope Mr. Bush lives a long life where each day he is faced with his abject failure as a president and as a human being. Thank you for your sacrifice and commitment and welcome home. Again, thank you, welcome home and the best of everything to you and yours. [/quote'] Man what can I say- I totally agree with you, your words sent shivers down my spine. We got rid of our Prime Minister John Howard back in November for following Mr Bush and the Neo-Cons into this war and elected a more humane and caring government into power, I hope you guys do the same in the near future when your election comes around.Peace. As for the guitar it does look like the fretboard must of be in the process of lifting. The repair looks a bit messy. Hope you did not spend too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_newton2001 Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 Man what can I say- I totally agree with you' date=' your words sent shivers down my spine. We got rid of our Prime Minister John Howard back in November for following Mr Bush and the Neo-Cons into this war and elected a more humane and caring government into power, I hope you guys do the same in the near future when your election comes around.Peace. As for the guitar it does look like the fretboard must of be in the process of lifting. The repair looks a bit messy. Hope you did not spend too much.[/quote'] I ran into a few Australian Tropps over there. They were a pretty laid back on base, the only time I really saw them. They were staying at a smaller palace next to one of Saddam's larger palaces. Nice guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefoxicy Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 We got rid of our Prime Minister John Howard back in November for following Mr Bush and the Neo-Cons into this war and elected a more humane and caring government into power Because letting someone stay in power after the genocide of the kurds, the violent and tyrannical rule of a ruthless dictator, and the complete failure to technologically advance his country to the point where people didn't have to die of thirst and hunger on a daily basis is totally humane, as long as we're not the ones cutting their throats. The economy there went nuts when we intervened. Everyone wants to make money off (read: exploit) the poor iraqis; but, fortunately, that means they get (low paying) jobs that buy them food and water -- let's face it, there's no market for anything there, but there's room to create one and get a huge cash cow from it. (I'm familiar with business...) They go in with selfish intent maybe, but the entrepreneurs moving to Iraq are going to have to create an economy before they can start sucking money out of it. That place was a horrible third world country, and still is. People haven't realized the driving force that pushed through only when we removed Saddam; but at least they've stopped Vietnamming and talking about how horribly evil our soldiers are, they're over there to help make things better and they're getting shot at for it, applause to those who put their lives on the line every day just to help a bunch of poor dirty foreigners they don't even know. Welcome to Politics & Philosophy. Here are your asbestos tights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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