carini9 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Howdy folks. I'm very interested in a sheraton (natural finish). I've personally played the sheraton but not yet the casino. I relize the sheraton isn't a true hollow body but the casino is, which makes the casino have feedback issues when turned up load.(so i've heard)whats your experience with either one? any input would be helpful. I currently play threw a blues jr with the up graded speaker. I also have a epiphone les paul classic quilt top that i'm trying to sell before I can get a sheraton/casino? I have a post in the trader forum. willing to sell for a great price. Thanks for any help your able to give Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strumbone Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Welcome to the forum! I own a Sherri, not a Casino, but I'm sure there are others here that can give you a valid comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMcClane5000 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I have a Casino and I play mine 'up load'. I have feedback issues, but they're easily controlable. And what do you get in return? The most sweetest, warmest single-coil sound there is. The Casino is unique (so are the people who play them). What I've done with my Casino is I've added a Bigsby B7 Tremolo unit with which I can 'bend the feedback' and even use it as an 'effect' in my sound. It needs a little getting used to, but you can get the greatest feedbacks ever I've never been a fan of the asian Humbuckers... They sound very 'normal' to me, nothing special... If you're not afraid to handle some feedback, go with the Casino. AND: if you can afford some looking around I'd look for a 90's Peerless Casino sunburst... Those are the most beautiful sunbursts I've seen in Reissues... JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I have a Casino and don't have a feedback problem. Probably because (1) I use a direct box and (2) I never let the volume on stage get over 100db. I use 15db ear plugs and I know that anything over 85db hitting your ear drum causes permanent damage. If you have a Casino that's feeding back and you aren't wearing ear plugs, you are damaging your ears. - A word to the wise. OK, what do I like about the Casino? 1) Beautiful P90 tone. IMHO the P90 is the best sounding pickup made. 2) The P90 sound is made even better by the vibration of the acoustic top moving the pickup in relation to the strings 3) Light weight - it weighs a bit over 6 pounds 4) Great action 5) It's a good looking guitar. Insights and incites by Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svet Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Howdy folks. I'm very interested in a sheraton (natural finish). I've personally played the sheraton but not yet the casino. I relize the sheraton isn't a true hollow body but the casino is' date=' which makes the casino have feedback issues when turned up load.(so i've heard)whats your experience with either one? any input would be helpful. I currently play threw a blues jr with the up graded speaker. I also have a epiphone les paul classic quilt top that i'm trying to sell before I can get a sheraton/casino? I have a post in the trader forum. willing to sell for a great price. Thanks for any help your able to give [/quote'] Will this be the only guitar that you own? If so then I would highly recommend the Sheraton as it is a little more versatile than its Casino cousin. As you know it is a semi hollow body design; as such it isn't as prone to feedback. That being said it isn't immune to feedback either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Will this be the only guitar that you own? If so then I would highly recommend the Sheraton as it is a little more versatile than its Casino cousin. As you know it is a semi hollow body design; as such it isn't as prone to feedback. That being said it isn't immune to feedback either. +1 You mention that you are parting with a Les Paul to acquire either a Sheraton or a Casino? A Sheraton will allow you (at least to some extent) to venture into Les Paul territory. There's a lot of sustain to be had, along with the classic, thick, humbucker tone. I do like Casinos and have had a couple of flirtations with them in the past...but I always see a Casino as an optional extra, rather than a mainstay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MykWiz Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I own a Sheraton II and I love it. If you're interested, PM me and I'll send you some links to videos of a Sheraton II being played straight into a Fender BJ. So you can get a feel for the tones possible with that rig. At the same time, I feel the Casino is a very nice and quality guitar, however, I have no experience with one. ~MW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwhi2001 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I've owned a Sheraton and a Sorrento, which is a single-cut Casino. The Sorrento was very light, with a surprisingly thin neck and narrow nut. Very nice sound, but uncontrollable microphonic feedback from the metal-covered P90s when I kicked a booster in for soloing and was stood near my amp. With hindsight, I could have tried wax potting them, but I just gave up on gigging it. Sound-wise very versatile. The Sheraton was much heavier and a chunkier neck. Feedback was controllable. Different range of tones due to the humbuckers. Could get quite heavy sounds if you wanted them. Both were very nice guitars, but the Sheraton was too big and heavy for me, and the Sorrento went because of the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeMaster Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think the best thing to do is try a Casino and a Sheraton (preferably through the same amp and thoroughly) and see what you think, I personally would go for a Sheraton, but that is because I've never been a huge fan of P90s, but it is your choice, I would personally go for the Sheraton, especially if it is going to be your only guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Howdy folks. I'm very interested in a sheraton (natural finish). I've personally played the sheraton but not yet the casino. I relize the sheraton isn't a true hollow body but the casino is' date=' which makes the casino have feedback issues when turned up load.(so i've heard)whats your experience with either one? any input would be helpful. I currently play threw a blues jr with the up graded speaker. I also have a epiphone les paul classic quilt top that i'm trying to sell before I can get a sheraton/casino? I have a post in the trader forum. willing to sell for a great price. Thanks for any help your able to give [/quote'] You are going to have to play one of each side by side. Very different animals. I really wish Epiphone would reissue the Riveira with mini HBs. I own one and have both guitars you mention, Epiphone 335 copies, and a Casino and the Riviera has become my favorite lately as to me combines the best of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I have an 80's MIK Sheri and a new MIC IBJL Casino. I can make the Sheri feedback, but the Casino is more prone to lower-frequency and less useful feedback on account of the full hollow body design. I don't know if I could give up either one at this point, but if I had neither, I'd get the Sheri first, it's more tonally versatile. However, the tone of the Casino is unique, and if I were playing a lot of Beatles covers I'd prolly get the Casino for authenticity. Oh, and the necks feel and play about the same on mine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I have both...a '66 Vintage Casino, and a AIUSA Sheraton (identical to the Kalamazoo USA versions) with mini-humbuckers. To me, they're totally different...so, as was said previously, it's important that you TRY both, and see what fits your style and expectations. Casino: Has a very warm "growl" to it when pushed, even without overdrive. Very unique tone, that way. It cleans up in a spectacular rounded tone, and with the tone backed off, the mid and neck positions, has wonderful "Jazz" capabilities, without getting overly muddy sounding. "Lead" guitar is (somewhat) limited, due to lack of upper fret access (neck joint being at the 16th fret (Vintage USA, Lennon (USA) Elitist (Japanese), and IBJL (Chinese) versions) or 17th fret, on Korean versions. But, if you don't "live" in the upper fret areas, it can play some solid lead parts, quite nicely. As mentioned, Feedback CAN be a problem, but there's always ways to get around that. They are very light, and "back savers," on long gigs. Sheraton: Sem-hollow body, with Humbucking pickups, standard. USA and/or AIUSA versions have Mini-humbuckers. Humbucker tone, but with a bit sharper attack. Mini's are great pickups (IMHO), and espeically nice, in the neck position, when a full size humbucker can get a bit muddy, in tone. The mini's don't, as much...but, the full sized humbuckers are nice pickups as well, and certainly have legions, of fans. Some people prefer to swap out, the stock humbuckers, for Gibson '57's, or Duncan '59's...or some other incarnation. I would try the originals, for some time, before abandoning them. Sheri's are beautiful guitars, very ornate and well constructed. Slim necks, on most models. Whether that's good or bad, will depend on the player's preferences. Because of the center, sustain block, Sheri's are much less prone to feed back... unless you want it. The block also makes it much heavier. The neck is attached at the 19th fret, so upper frets are more easily accessed. They are wonderful "Blues, Jazz, and Classic Rock" guitars...and can be great, at "Country" as well. Some folks, have used TV Jones Filter-trons, in place of the standard humbuckers, to get a more "Gretsch" like tone. So...there's LOTS of possibilities. Both Sheraton and Casino's are great guitars, in their own right. You must play both, for a period, to fully appreciate the differences, and possibilities. You may decide to get one, first...then the other, later. ;>) Cheers, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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