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Any heavy handed pickers have issues with floating bridges?


duane v

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I have such a light touch that I'm a little embarrased about it.

 

Whatever I never go out of tune or break strings. I rarely slam it.

 

You wouldn't know it from looking at my guitars though. They look like Bruce Springsteen played them. By that I mean they look like a monkey strums them.

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I dont have issues with a trapeze tailpiece, it's the bridge that can give me a bit of trouble if I'm not careful...

 

BTW what is it with the trapeze that you don't like?

My bad, when you said arch-top, I thought you were talking about the Casino, sorry :unsure: On the subject of the tailpiece, I just think they're a bit awkward, that's all.

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Usually it's 'cuz of strings too light for the style - at least in my experience. Frankly I think it's a relatively common problem for those making a shift from fixed bridges, either acoustic or electric.

 

Mother Maybelle used incredibly heavy strings on her archtop, for example. I just worked like heck to back off on the "whumph" a bit. Mostly it works.

 

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Usually it's 'cuz of strings too light for the style - at least in my experience. Frankly I think it's a relatively common problem for those making a shift from fixed bridges, either acoustic or electric.

 

Mother Maybelle used incredibly heavy strings on her archtop, for example. I just worked like heck to back off on the "whumph" a bit. Mostly it works.

 

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Most of the old time players used heavy strings..I call them "cables"..

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Jax, you nailed it.

 

I was playing a lotta 12-string in those days - obviously a long time ago - and I couldn't play Wildwood Flower on Maybelle's Gibson without the thing just sounding like "mufff, mufff, mufff, mufff..."

 

I really felt like a little kid who didn't know how to play at that point.

 

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Yeah D, back in the late '80s/early '90s I had a geet with a TERRIBLE combination.....a floating roller bridge on a Bigsby(clone) equipped Univox Coiley Deluxe.

Between aggressive picking and diving too deep w/the "Bigs" I was constantly having to reposition the bridge, until I swapped the felt strip for 3 drops of "Krazy Glue" which solved the problem instantly.

Not advized for an expensive guitar, but it works !

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Make sure your guitar is properly intonated, mark the corners of the rosewood base (that the bridge sits on) with some green painter's tape (the stuff that comes off really easily) and then remove the rosewood base.

 

Put a bit of double-sided carpet tape on the bottom of the base and then put it back on to the guitar.

 

What about the finish of the guitar? Don't worry about it. You don't see under the base and if you place it correctly, you'll never be taking it off --- though you can still get the base off if necessary (you just have to be careful).

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Make sure your guitar is properly intonated, mark the corners of the rosewood base (that the bridge sits on) with some green painter's tape (the stuff that comes off really easily) and then remove the rosewood base.

 

Put a bit of double-sided carpet tape on the bottom of the base and then put it back on to the guitar.

 

What about the finish of the guitar? Don't worry about it. You don't see under the base and if you place it correctly, you'll never be taking it off --- though you can still get the base off if necessary (you just have to be careful).

 

I don't want to do that.

 

The big part of the sound is the bridge making direct contact with the wood. Also the carpet tape would change the action....

 

Basically Wednesday it's going to my luithier for it's yearly string change and set-up. I'll have him go with a one gage heavier string set..... And I'll just be more careful [cool]

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Duane...

 

I think you're pretty much doing the correct thing from my own perspective.

 

Also, I think this is a perfect example of the "thing" that different guitars require somewhat different technique as well as perhaps somewhat different concept of technical performance.

 

Heavier strings probably aren't a bad idea, but perhaps a change in pick technique and/or a much lighter pick for heavier strumming. That's probably one place where I had difficult times going from all acoustic in my earlier days in small venues to miking the guitar in bigger venues (no stage monitors in those days) to electric in bands... each takes a bit different "hand" in playing, IMHO.

 

Today's setup with stage monitors makes it a lot easier to use a lighter hand and a bit more amp volume 'stedda hammering the strings. Bose type amp/speaker outfits ditto. It's also why I've always pushed for a master volume on Gibson style guitar controls or a volume pedal along with more immediate feedback such as one gets from a stage monitor.

 

In a small venue solo type deal I always try to get the guitar/mike amp just behind and to the right of me at more or less head level for the same reason - then I don't overwork the strings as much.

 

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I found that notes ringed a little better and longer on my '68 Byrdland after I afixed my bridge with carpet tape (as per Nugent's guitar tech's instructions to me).

 

It made no difference in the action --- that tape is very, very thing.

 

I used my Byrdland live on Saturday night for the first time since I put carpet tape under my bridge (and BTW, I use 10-46 gauge strings). I attacked the strings with a little more zeal than I normally would --- knowing that the bridge was solid --- and it didn't move a bit.

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