dmbb1239 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 hello first post here!!!! lol noob!!!! any way i have 2 epiphones a black les paul custom and a wine red les paul custom prophecy gx and both of the 2 guitar's high e strings have completly come out of intonation i tried adjusting the screw at the bridge but i ran out of room (moved as close to the headstock as it will go) anybody know what else i can do? thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 So, the saddle is adjusted all the way forward and you have run out of room? Is the angle on the saddle sloping forward or backwards, if it is sloping back towards the bridge then you can swap it the other way giving you a few extra millimeters to play with. But if the angle on the saddle is already leaning towards the headstock then you may have to take more drastic action. However, there is one thing that does occur to me. You have the exact same problem on both guitars, which tells me that you may have made a same error on both. Are you absolutely sure you are adjusting the intonation correctly. Welcome to the forum I would love to see some pictures of your guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Dmbb, Welcome and have fun! Same as Bigneil....If you can explain to us how you are adjusting your intonation. The high E is usually the least problematic when adjusting intonation. Usually it is the low E or the G that is a problem. Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Hi! You have the exact same problem on both guitars, which tells me that you may have made a same error on both. Maybe the same strings were used on both guitars? I had a similar intonation problem too ... the D string was still 5 cents sharp though the saddle was adjusted as far back as possible. After changing strings from GHS Boomers 9-46 to D'daddario EXL110 (10-46) all strings intonated perfectly as in a guitar maintenance handbook ... not 1 cent off. So I would recommend trying a different brand string set first ... maybe he got a bad series? I read a thread in a different forum, where someone had a similar problem with a specific string set and he bought 10 (!) packages, which all had the same bad string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 However, there is one thing that does occur to me. You have the exact same problem on both guitars, which tells me that you may have made a same error on both. Are you absolutely sure you are adjusting the intonation correctly. Welcome to the forum I would love to see some pictures of your guitars Ditto, seems strange to be having the same problem on 2 guitars. Also try using the neck pickup and roll the tone completely off (0) when you try it next. There's a great DIY section in the Epi Lounge, it has the answers to most things technical. Enjoy the forum dmbb1239, welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkinhead Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 I've had this problem with the G string on my new Casino (as Whitmore Willy said this is more usual than the top E), although my problem was needing extra string length. I did the switch that BigNeil suggests and flipped the saddle round which gave me enough extra travel to sort it. As folks have said, you can just get bad strings though. Last year I tried out an ES330 where one string's intonation was miles out, despite the store's reassurance that they were new strings. Fitted a new string from my usual D'Addario set and it was fine. Come to think of it, I've never had this problem with D'Addarios! One other thing. You do not mention how old the strings are. They do gradually lose whatever properties they need to stay in perfect intonation over time. If you've had both sets on for a while, they might both be drifting off at the same time? I was always told to set the intonation with new strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuiblue Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Do all of the above. If your still having an issue, try overwrapping your strings, could be your TOM height to Stop Bar angle is too steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjlandry Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 On my Dot, intonation was out on a couple of strings. I replaced the strings with D'addarios, and adjusted the bridge down to standard specs. I don't know if the bridge adjustment or the string change solved the problem, since I did both at the same time. But once I had done both these things, I went to adjust intonation and found that it had become nearly perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 I don't know if the bridge adjustment or the string change solved the problem, ... Maybe both played a role. In my case only the D'addarios solved my intonation problem, no further adjustments were necessary. But regarding to Tuiblue's hint the string's angle between bridge and tailpiece might play a role too ... interesting theory, btw ... never heard of it before, but it sounds logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbb1239 Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 thank you for all the replies!!!!!!!! i currently have elixers 10's on both and the strings are fairlly old so ill change em and let u all know! i think ill try dadario strings this time i have thme on an ibanez rg and they feel good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Make sure to get them from an authorized dealer, there are a lot of fake D'Addarios floating around... http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/58221-youre-not-gonna-believe-it/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 i currently have elixers 10's on both and the strings are fairlly old ... I think, intonating with old strings is always a game of luck. It's usally recommended to care for intonation with new strings, that have settled for one or two days. And I noticed, it's a good idea to use the bridge pickup with the tone set to zero, because too much overtones lead to false measures with most guitar tuners. i think ill try dadario strings ... The Elixir in 10-46 should also intonate nicely, if you should prefer them for their long life. But from what I read, they don't feel and especially sound as good as a nice set of nickel strings like the D'addario ... but remember, string choice is a matter of personal preference. Maybe first intonate one of the two guitars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuiblue Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 As you're new to this forum, one of the members has spent some time creating a Do-It-Yourself page: http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/51292-the-d0-it-yourself-thread-look-here-for-tech-related-questions/ There are plenty of Links under Set-Up that should help you out. There is also a tutorial on how to post Pics, which could help us, help you. In case you don't know what over-wrapping is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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