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I agree entirely on the playability factor that includes how some folks get good music from a given instrument and others ... don't.

 

To me there are instruments that simply work for a given musicians and others that don't. I'm not at all sure that price tag is entirely relevant after a certain point.

 

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People just do not know the money they can save on Boss pedals by just simply modding them to taste ha. I have modded 2 Boss SD-1's and they sound great. I must admit the only "stoke" Boss pedal i like is a BD-2 or OD1. The others do not cut the cheese for me. Also, Boss need to up thier game on the Multi-effects units..they are crap compared to anything else mulit-effects wise. Wonder why they are so loyal to COSM? its only "decent" at modulars or delays. Though they are sturdy and work horses, one is pretty crazy to spend $500 on a Boss GT compared to a X3, Tonelab, Digitech RP, or most def a freaking Nova System at the same price. I wish Boss would ditch Roland and go with something else, then i would buy.

 

I'm gonna go with a lot of you here, and say BOSS is super underrated.

3/5 th's of my board is BOSS.

they're little tanks, and wicked reliable.

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Besides all that boutique Crap is WAY over priced.dry.gif

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Back when Guild was a real American company building stuff in the US, they did indeed do some nice stuff. I don't know whence came their pickups, but even on a nice SG-type in the mid 1970s, you could get a reeeeally nice jazz sort of tone or hit country rock quite well.

 

Still have mine. S100c.

 

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I see Encore guitars getting an unfair talking down, often by people who wouldn't even give them a chance.

I have a one humbucker short scale strat-like guitar of theirs and used to have another one of the same model but with a nice finish which I gave away to a friend of mine who'd had her eye on it for over a year because I was moving house and had to make some room. I missed it enough that I paid slightly over the odds for the replacement I know have.

 

My partner's also got an Encore strat clone and she can't fault it. They're cheap guitars targetted at learners, but they're really quite nice guitars from what I've seen.

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Fernandes Always used to make stuff that was great quality and good price. Not sure anymore though. Obviously I love the mid to late 80's MIJ Charvels. I think Boss pedals are fine. Not sure why people would turn their nose up at them. Effects are like paint brushes and colors each add's something unique to the picture.

 

Andy

 

B the way I think the Epi's are very good quality too. That's why I maintain that Gibson could build their guitars for a much more reasonable price than they charge...but I digress

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Another vote for Schecter! I hear a lot of people say that Schecters are only good for playing metal. Absolutely not! I can get amazing tone out of my Schecter. I can do anything from a beautiful clean tone, to blues, Rock N' Roll, and metal. Schecter makes some great guitars and they sell em' for really good prices. Mine is a 2007 Schecter C1+. The only complaint about it that I have is that the stock pickups were crap. So I replaced them with some Seymour Duncan's. Sounds amazing.

 

 

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Hi Otton

 

Have you ever tried a LAG guitar?

http://www.lagguitars.co.uk/

 

the one my pupil had was a metal machine, but it really impressed me! It had a nice feel and was very expressive.

 

Also I have been very impressed with the Gitane range of Gypsy jazz guitars. They are made in China but sound just greatmsp_thumbup.gif

 

 

The roxanne isnt metal and is beautiful in every way.

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I was the same way back during the 80's when I was giggin.... I wouldn't even consider an Epiphone, because it had to be Moser or Charvel.... I can kick myself now because I had numerous opportunities to get a 60's Epi, but I just turned my nose up. ](*,)

 

It wasn't until a friend brought over his JL Rev three years ago, that I changed my whole outlook on Epiphone.

 

Epi Joe Bonamassa. Wow thats beautiful. Shame it's £500. I can almost get 2 MK's or PRS SE's for that

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In another thread I wrote a line that I think is appropriate.

 

If a guitar seems to help you play better rather than make you work to play what you can on other guitars, that's 90 percent of the equation.

 

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I agree, I have owned 3 Gibson Les Paul std, one CUSTOM, and ... one Epiphone ELITE series (made in Japan) Les Paul std with BareKnuckle pickups, and believe me or not I really regret that I have sold it, none of the Gibson sounds as well as that Epiphone.

 

the elitest retail for the same as gibsons though

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Guild is a good company that never seems to get enough praise.

I know they make some remarkable acoustics, and have a history

for making some radical looking electrics. Remember this one? [biggrin]

 

http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/guildX79.php

 

My friend has a Guild Bluesbird from '72 or 3.

A good many guitarist has tried to wheel and deal it away from him.

Most say it's one of the best sounding guitars they've ever played.

He isn't getting rid of it anytime soon.

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This photo is from elsewhere, but it's just like my 1970s Guild from when it was an American company. No Gibsons around when I went hunting, but... this is a wonderful guitar. No, it ain't for sale. She's worn 8-38s since I bought her. Sounds good doing rock, country, even fingerstyle light jazz.

 

I don't know exactly what the pickups are, or the internals, but it's all exceptional.

 

I made a strap from harness/saddle leather and added my own acorns and oak leave to that too. Still use it.

 

But... note that today's Guild is NOT the same company.

 

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I have a few votes for under appreciated guitar brands:

 

The Westone Electra Vulcan series of Les Pauls that had the Atari cartridge effects that you plug in the back are very cool. I have one and it smokes the '58 Les Paul reissues that I have played recently, both for playability, tone, and aesthetics. My Electra has abalone inlays. The pickups are wired with coil splitting & phase reversal options with a flick of a rotary selector. The effects are pretty neat too, very low s/n for the 70's. The only pain is that you have to adjust effect parameters in the back of the guitar.

 

For basses, I have to go with the Swedish built Hagstroms from the 60's & 70's. I have a Les Paul Recording custom bass copy that is really a great player. They are really under valued compared to more famous or trendy brands.

 

For guitar modeling amps, I have to tout the Johnson Amplification JM-150 with the J-12 foot controller. The amp to me sounds better than anything else like it on the market. Too bad getting parts for them is tough since they are discontinued. The only modeling amp that came close to it for sounds and foot pedal control is the Line6 Vetta, but it still pales in comparison. I wish Digitech/Harman would resurrect the brand.

 

For bass amp combos, I love my Hartke 150w with one 15". Amazing amp and it felt about half the weight of the Peavey TNT-130 that it replaced. Big & beefy with some nice clean articulated sounds. If you want a dirty sound, just plug in a Boss Metal Zone pedal and go nuts (if it was good enough distortion for Zakk Wylde on the tune Perry Mason, it is good enough for me).

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Where do they retail actually ???

 

the line was named Elite / Elitist...... btw

 

It is the insprired by John Lennon that is cheaper at about £689.99

http://www.andertons.co.uk/electric-guitars/pid16993/cid556/epiphone-inspired-by-john-lennon-1965-casino-outfit-vintage-sunburst.asp?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=pricecomp&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping

 

The elitest can be bought from places such as GAK which is the cheapest ive seen £1249.00

 

http://www.gak.co.uk/en/epiphone-elitist-1965-casino-vintage-sunburst/18763

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The "inspired by JL" isn't an Elitist

 

The Casino is the only Elitist left actually in production

 

Elitist !

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Im aware it isnt the elitest but its much cheaper as an alternative

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Ovation acoustics. I see used Legend series (US made) often for $300-400. My '96 1777 Legend is an incredible player I bought it at a pawn shop for $300.

 

With BOSS stuff, pick and choose...they make some great effects and some dogs, I'd never turn away an older made-in-Japan pedal though.

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