RobinTheHood Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 http://www.epiphone.com/press/new2011.html What IS this guitar? Its in the Dot/Casino/Riviera/Shetaton family, but what is it EXACTLY? I'm want to enter it into the wiki, but I'm not sure where. All of the other ES models are single-cutaways. Any ideas on this? This archtop name/number stuff still cornfusses me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yes, here........ http://forum.gibson....b-will-like-it/ Ah, thanks. I missed that thread. So it is its own beast then. Sweet. I guess I'll put it with the ES-Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymac Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 http://www.epiphone....ss/new2011.html What IS this guitar? Its in the Dot/Casino/Riviera/Shetaton family, but what is it EXACTLY? I'm want to enter it into the wiki, but I'm not sure where. All of the other ES models are single-cutaways. Any ideas on this? This archtop name/number stuff still cornfusses me! The Gibson ES-355 (sometimes referred to as the Stereo-Varitone) was the deluxe version of the ES-335 (ES = Electro Spanish). I assume the Epiphone will be their version of the Gibby. BTW, BB King's Lucille is a variation of the ES-355 sans f-holes. There's a really nice Alex Lifeson signature 355... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Man, I want one of these so bad it's killing me!!! I don't know how I'm gonna make it through the weeks/months ahead until it comes out. My dream guitar = As you can see, all of them don't have the Vari-Tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 The Gibson ES-355 (sometimes referred to as the Stereo-Varitone) was the deluxe version of the ES-335 (ES = Electro Spanish). I assume the Epiphone will be their version of the Gibby. BTW, BB King's Lucille is a variation of the ES-355 sans f-holes. There's a really nice Alex Lifeson signature 355... Thanks Jerrymac. I kind of put together that the Lucille was a 355 while looking at the first pic you posted. I suppose I'll put the Lucille with the ES-Series as well for good measure. Thanks again. That was most helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymac Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Thanks Jerrymac. I kind of put together that the Lucille was a 355 while looking at the first pic you posted. I suppose I'll put the Lucille with the ES-Series as well for good measure. Thanks again. That was most helpful. I looked at Peter's pixs, I was kinda disappointed the Epi doesn't have the Varitone. ES was Gibson's designation, Epi was just E. I think the Riviera model # was E-360, Sheraton E-212, Casino E-230 if I remember correctly. It seems like current Epis keep the Gibson nomenclature when they do their version of a Gibson model.... Thanks for your efforts on the Wki, it's a great resource... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Looks like a '60's Casino/ES330...the old early '60's Casinos had that type of peghead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 I looked at Peter's pixs, I was kinda disappointed the Epi doesn't have the Varitone. ES was Gibson's designation, Epi was just E. I think the Riviera model # was E-360, Sheraton E-212, Casino E-230 if I remember correctly. It seems like current Epis keep the Gibson nomenclature when they do their version of a Gibson model.... Thanks for your efforts on the Wki, it's a great resource... Its confusing especially since I see the Dot referred to as the ES-335 Dot a lot. Not sure if that is accurate or not. I've decided to keep the numerical designations off of the guitars unless I am 100% certain of their accuracy. Thanks Jerrymac. I gave you mention for "additional info" on the Lucille (in the 355 section) and the ES-355. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Well I mean the Dot IS an ES-335 in every sense basically. There's even one that says ES-335 on the TRC. At least I think this one was called a Dot. I could be wrong, I know it was a limited edition. Different inlays too, that are not actually "dots". Some of the old Gibson 335's had those kind of inlays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Any info on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Any info on that one? Not much. There was a thread about one a while back. Thread Maybe they were only available in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yeah, I found that. I'll have to make a note in my profile and do some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyseven Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Well I mean the Dot IS an ES-335 in every sense basically. There's even one that says ES-335 on the TRC. At least I think this one was called a Dot. I could be wrong, I know it was a limited edition. Different inlays too, that are not actually "dots". Some of the old Gibson 335's had those kind of inlays. To be honest, i would kill for this Epi 335. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 To be honest, i would kill for this Epi 335. Me too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyseven Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Me too!! I wish i could get one those...i guess i would trade in every single guitar i own.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymac Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Its confusing especially since I see the Dot referred to as the ES-335 Dot a lot. Not sure if that is accurate or not. I've decided to keep the numerical designations off of the guitars unless I am 100% certain of their accuracy. The original Gibson ES-335s had dots and a stop tailpiece. In the early sixties, the dots were replaced with small blocks, and by 1965 the stop tailpiece was replaced with a trapeze tailpiece. When I started playing in the mid-sixties, the 335s with the blocks were considered inferior to the earlier late 50s models. It had more to do with the stop tp having better sustain than the trap, but we called the older ones Dot-necks. When Gibson reissued the 335 in the early 80s, it had dot markers and was designated the ES-335DOT. In the '60s, the closest Epi had to the ES-335 was the Riviera, which was closer to the mid '60s ES-335. So the Epiphone Dot is actually a reissue of the late fifties ES-335 (or the post 80s Gibson ES-335DOT). I don't think the Epiphone Dot was ever officially called an ES-335 but for all intents and purposes... One interesting fact about an iconic guitar, Alvin Lee's Big Red that he used at Woodstock. It was a 1959 ES-335 with Dot markers. He added a Strat pickup between the humbuckers and replaced the stop tailpiece with a Bigsby: Later pictures of Big Red show no Bigsby and '60s style small block markers (and a few more stickers): He had the fretboard/neck replaced. The Gibson Custom Shop Big Red like the 1975 specs, not as it was at Woodstock: Alvin Lee "Big Red" ES-335 One of the enduring images of 1969's Woodstock Festival is of Alvin Lee blasting out the solo section of "Going Home" on his 1959 ES-335 (which Lee nicknamed Big Red). The Custom Shop has lovingly recreated Big Red, including the stickers and artwork found on the body of the original, the added third pickup, custom pickguard, and the replacement '60s block inlay neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrw1960 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Alvin Lee. One of the most underrated guitarists of our time. I think that he epitomized the ES-335 with his blistering licks: "I'm Going Home"-"Rock & Roll Music To The World"- "Choo Choo Mama"-"I'd Love To Change The World". Ten Years After was one of the best R & R bands ever. Alvin is one of the BEST guitarists of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymac Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Alvin Lee. One of the most underrated guitarists of our time. I think that he epitomized the ES-335 with his blistering licks: "I'm Going Home"-"Rock & Roll Music To The World"- "Choo Choo Mama"-"I'd Love To Change The World". Ten Years After was one of the best R & R bands ever. Alvin is one of the BEST guitarists of all time. I remember listening to Cricklewood Green and Ssshhhh back in my college days. My band used to play a couple of their songs, Me and My Baby & If You Should Love Me. Alvin was amazing in Woodstock, the best part of the movie IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS4 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 To be honest, i would kill for this Epi 335. I bought two of those after the original post about them last last year. A chain in Canada had the exclusive on them Long & McQuade, if you know a Canadian you could have them pick one up for you, it was $399 on sale from $499, there was a few left in April when I ordered mine. Exchange rate is about 1/1 right now, also had to pay Canadian tax ($100) shipping from L&M to a friend in Canada, shipping down to the US and customs, yay! All in about $600/guitar. I did by the second to flip so if you or anyone else is interested hit me up, I think $700 is fair (plus shipping and Pay Pal) I'm in Oregon, I had the L&M dealer hand select the one's I got, took about four to get the two worth owning, they're new in their boxes (did not include cases) superchargedrs4@gmail.com is my email address- If anyone wants to try and source one on their own I'd be happy to pass along the relative #s so the L&M guy will know what your talking about. *they dont ship to the US however. Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 When I purhased my ES-335 (at Long and McQuade in Nanaimo BC, Canada) they also had in the same tint, a Les Paul and a SG. Allthree came with a bound neck and block inlays. I would have loved to have bought all three but only had a limited amount of cash :( ....Also my wife would have "killed" me. Lots of gas flowing that day http://[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 When I purhased my ES-335 (at Long and McQuade in Nanaimo BC, Canada) they also had in the same tint, a Les Paul and a SG. Allthree came with a bound neck and block inlays. I would have loved to have bought all three but only had a limited amount of cash :( ....Also my wife would have "killed" me. Lots of gas flowing that day http://[/img] Dig the Strat. Reminds me of mine, cool guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 How come only Canada got these beautiful 335's?? I smell a conspiracy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Thank you for the reminder about Alvin Lee and "Goin' Home". That was always one of my favorite bits of Woodstock, well that and Crosby Stills Nash & Young's "Suite Judy Blue Eyes" that is. It has always interested me how a Dot can be referred to as an ES335 but it's wrong to call a G400 an SG??? Double standards? If there was one guitar that I still lust after, it's a Gibby ES335. Dig (grin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 It has always interested me how a Dot can be referred to as an ES335 but it's wrong to call a G400 an SG? I call my G400 an SG. It says "SG" on the truss rod cover so that's what I call it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Man, I want one of these so bad it's killing me!!! I don't know how I'm gonna make it through the weeks/months ahead until it comes out. My dream guitar = As you can see, all of them don't have the Vari-Tone. Well...judging by your avatar...I really can't say I'm surprised by your choice. But then I'm a big fan of Noel, myself, so I admire your choice. I'm old enough to remember seeing Oasis live at Glastonbury in 1995. My first year at uni...16 years ago, almost to the very day. Heck, I'm getting ancient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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