voughtrazer Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Hello all, I have a question. I would like to know how good is this Epiphone quality wise, as well as the construction method, They told me in other forum that the construction method used in the guitar it's not the best. Also I would like to know common issues of this guitar in general, I played this guitar at my local music store and I love the feeling of it. I'm in between this guitar and a Gibson Les paul Studio 60's tribute, but I don't like the p90's. Advises and opinions would become very handy here since I kinda need them. Thanks for your time, have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl00dsm0k3 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Hello all, I have a question. I would like to know how good is this Epiphone quality wise, as well as the construction method, They told me in other forum that the construction method used in the guitar it's not the best. Also I would like to know common issues of this guitar in general, I played this guitar at my local music store and I love the feeling of it. I'm in between this guitar and a Gibson Les paul Studio 60's tribute, but I don't like the p90's. Advises and opinions would become very handy here since I kinda need them. Thanks for your time, have a nice day. i heard its made out of plywoodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverden Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 EPI Catalog describes it as Laminated Mahogany With Flame Maple top. http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=28&CollectionID=16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 It is plywood, or laminated mahogany, depending on which term one prefers........ There was a LONG thread here some time back about one of these which had many many factory defects.........I imagine that this was a rarity......If you played one and liked it, I say go for it......Make sure the tone is good for you; Solid laminates may not be your thing.... Would I buy one ???? Probably, and I'm a collecter and player....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midiman56 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Oh my GOD ... NOOOOOOO! Sorry, Voughtrazer, but the last time this came up in the forum, things got out of hand and drama insued. I even ticked off a long-standing member (whom I quite like). He ended up leaving us for a quite a while. I was pi$$ed at myself for doing so. Here is the thread ... it should answer all of your questions. It even has a guest appearance by the President (or CEO, or whatever) of Epiphone who explains how this guitar is made and the reasons for it. Hope this helps ... http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/47630-epi-g-1275-plywood/page__hl__hungrycat Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Laminated guitars take a lot of flack from gear snobs, but the fact is that a void-free laminated guitar body is stronger and more stable than any solid wood body. It won't crack, is much stiffer, and it's the perfect material for a cost effective 2-neck guitar that must endure twice the string tension of an ordinary guitar. It's often said that properly set and cured, a glue joint repair will never break at that point again, although the wood may break again somewhere else. Since a laminated body is layers of veneer with the grain glued at 90 degrees from each succesive layer, the overall strength of the material would logically far exceed solid wood. Build quality is a different story, and should be assessed on a case by case basis. 1275s are heavy guitars and of course you can only play one neck at a time so you may tire of it sooner than later. I'd only get one as part of a stable of instruments or if I needed it for some particular musical style or specific songs (Led Zep, etc.) where I had to be able to switch between different tunings on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voughtrazer Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 Oh my GOD ... NOOOOOOO! Sorry, Voughtrazer, but the last time this came up in the forum, things got out of hand and drama insued. I even ticked off a long-standing member (whom I quite like). He ended up leaving us for a quite a while. I was pi$$ed at myself for doing so. Here is the thread ... it should answer all of your questions. It even has a guest appearance by the President (or CEO, or whatever) of Epiphone who explains how this guitar is made and the reasons for it. Hope this helps ... http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/47630-epi-g-1275-plywood/page__hl__hungrycat Jim Thanks for that post. Quite drama in that link. They did it because it was like more reliable and better? based on its value. But I have another question, should I buy That Gibson Les Paul Studio? (60's tribute) or the best epiphone les paul In this case I think the Ultra II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I think those guitars are totally different beasts. But if you are planning on going for the Ultra, wait for the Ultra III. It has a nifty little chromatic tuner built into one of the pickup rings, USB output with recording software, and an A/B indicator light so you dont forget which output you are using. On the subject of the G-1275. I dont remember what was said or learned in that thread, and I'm not going to re-live it, but I have discovered a few things about these guitars. We already know there was a bolt-neck as well as the current set neck model. The bolt-neck version was the G-1275 Standard and it also came with covered pickups on the 6-string side of the guitar...whereas the G-1275 Custom has a set-neck and open-coil pickups on the 6-side. The Standard is discontinued. Also, the older Epiphone catalogues list both of these guitars as having alder bodies. Now, we know that isnt the case these days, but some people have reported seeing 1275's with solid wood bodies, so maybe that was how they were built in the first year or so. However, like most of the older catalogues, it doesnt specify whether or not the alder was solid or laminate. It just says "alder", which, if you know anything about epiphone specs, could mean either one. Like it was stated in the other thread (this part I do remember), "solid" means wood, "select" or "tonewood" means laminate, and everything else is up for debate unless there is proof positive one way or the other. Another thing to keep in mind about laminate guitars is that there are differing qualities of laminated woods used. Also, sometimes they are all mahogany or alder or maple, and sometimes they are a combination of two laminates, like mahogany and alder every other sheet. When this particular technique is used, Epiphone usually specifies this in the specs. I think that one of the concerns about using laminates for guitar bodies is that the grains of each sheet cross each other instead of all running the same way. Although this makes the body incredibly strong, many tone seekers may stay away from laminates because they feel the sound doesnt resonate "properly" or the same way it would with a solid wood guitar. And to be fair, a laminated guitar played unplugged will generally not sound or feel the same when it "resonates" as a solid wood guitar. But this may also depend on the quality or technique used to make the laminated body. Yet, on the other hand, there are some very high quality non-wood guitars out there as well. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungrycat Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 ...not even with a ten foot pole. I even ticked off a long-standing member (whom I quite like). He ended up leaving us for a quite a while. I was pi$$ed at myself for doing so. No, that one was on me. Not your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverden Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Bottom line: if you like it; buy it. Doesn't matter what anybody else thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 The Gibby 60's Tribute Studios are very good sellers........ And many REAL players are buying them.....This alone says a lot............ I have seen them NEW for as little as $700.00..........A good deal..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHian Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I purchased a white Epiphone double neck, and it was beautiful! I owned an original Gibson white double neck back in the 1980's, and it totally reminded me of that guitar. Even had the same smell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjael Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 To me, plywood or solid makes no difference. It it sounds and feels good, what's the point in quibbling over materials? But I have another question, should I buy That Gibson Les Paul Studio? (60's tribute) or the best epiphone les paul In this case I think the Ultra II. The best Epiphone Les Pauls are, on paper, the 1959 and 1960 Les Pauls. They are pretty much Gibson Les Pauls but made in China. ...not even with a ten foot pole. When did you come back? I've been meaning to post your name in the "Former Members Missed" thread. Welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 They are such the PIA guitar ... They're heavy.... Only 20 usable frets (that's all it has), and the reach is about as bad as my Casino..... but there is something about those doublenecks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjael Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 They are such the PIA guitar ... They're heavy.... Only 20 usable frets (that's all it has), and the reach is about as bad as my Casino..... but there is something about those doublenecks You've also got 18 strings to change, and you can't use a string winder on 9 of them. They are totally badass though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voughtrazer Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 The Gibby 60's Tribute Studios are very good sellers........ And many REAL players are buying them.....This alone says a lot............ I have seen them NEW for as little as $700.00..........A good deal..... Thanks for all the info, I really know a lot more thanks to you guys... but do you think this Gibson (60's tribute) will hold it's value? I mean will it keep the same price if I want to sell it lets say in 2 years? I'm quite afraid that the price will drop with the years. thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Thanks for all the info, I really know a lot more thanks to you guys... but do you think this Gibson (60's tribute) will hold it's value? I mean will it keep the same price if I want to sell it lets say in 2 years? I'm quite afraid that the price will drop with the years. There are very few NEW guitars that don't devalue somewhat when you walk out the door. Most of those are handcrafted guitars... But, if kept in really good shape and with Gibson on the headstock, it should hold most of its value. The difference will be your "rental" fee for being able to play it during the interim. If you get lucky, the rental fee may become a dividend, but it's really a crapshoot. Maintaining your guitar in mint or near-mint condition is your best hedge against devaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Thanks for all the info, I really know a lot more thanks to you guys... but do you think this Gibson (60's tribute) will hold it's value? I mean will it keep the same price if I want to sell it lets say in 2 years? I'm quite afraid that the price will drop with the years. thanks again. Great advice from Brianh as always.......Wow....IF you buy the Tribute for a GOOD price, as Brian says, it will still lose value as soon as it is purchased....The 60's Tribute does not appear to be a planned limited edition....So, many are being made and sold.....The thing with many Gibby Les Pauls is, good models will go down in value first, usually for a handful of years, then rise back up in value as the model is discontinued, usually to it's original selling price; by selling price, I don't mean the MSRP, but a realistic selling price, which for a shopper like me means 30% to 55% of MSRP......After ten or so years, SOME, even many, Gibby Les Pauls MAY start commanding "profit" prices..... This is from my experience, and is also only my opinion......You also have the NYC tax to figure in to the equation.... Shop online as well....Almost all online music retailers will price match; Musician's Friend, ZZ Sounds, Sweetwater, etc... And, remember, even with their LISTED sale prices, always look for coupons, and hidden discounts...They are out there....Some don't like buying guitars sight unseen, I haven't had too much problem....Always think and shop carefully... Two years for a Gibby Tribute, you MIGHT be able to sell it for NEAR it's value........Just some thoughts........... I love them myself...For full disclousure, I've played them, I don't own one, or two, yet...I own MANY guitars though... And remember, higher end Epiphone Les Pauls are nice guitars as well.......... If an online retailer doesn't have a business presence in your state, there is no sales tax charged.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Some don't like buying guitars sight unseen, I haven't had too much problem....Always think and shop carefully... Spot on, in fact the biggest disappointments I have in my arsenal have all been guitars I've seen and held first, my online acquisitions have been %98 terrific buys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleWide Revival Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I would have to purchase an Epi Don Felder version 1275 if they would make one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmaker99 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I just sold my Gibson 1960's Tribute Cherryburst on Ebay. I never bonded with it but they get mostly rave reviews on the Gibby forums. Dig this, I paid $399 for mine at GC because it had a repaired headstock (excellent job with no issues). I sold it for $599. So, even though I had a bargain basement Gibson I took the built in profit instead of keeping it. There are just too many other guitars I prefer to play over the Gibson. Maybe it's because I have P90 guits up the ying-yang so that aspect of the Tribute didn't trip my trigger. In fact, I much prefer the neck and feel of the Melody Maker reissue over the Trib. Go to a GC and play one; to me it just didn't feel like a REAL Gibson LP---way too light and toy like. The gibby is the one to the far left in the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voughtrazer Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 I just sold my Gibson 1960's Tribute Cherryburst on Ebay. I never bonded with it but they get mostly rave reviews on the Gibby forums. Dig this, I paid $399 for mine at GC because it had a repaired headstock (excellent job with no issues). I sold it for $599. So, even though I had a bargain basement Gibson I took the built in profit instead of keeping it. There are just too many other guitars I prefer to play over the Gibson. Maybe it's because I have P90 guits up the ying-yang so that aspect of the Tribute didn't trip my trigger. In fact, I much prefer the neck and feel of the Melody Maker reissue over the Trib. Go to a GC and play one; to me it just didn't feel like a REAL Gibson LP---way too light and toy like. The gibby is the one to the far left in the front. I see that you own a couple of Agile guitars (like me). I went to my local guitar shop to give the 20% for the 60's tribute gibby, and I saw a guitar that I never saw in my life before. It was a Satin Gold Les paul Studio entirely made with maple. I played it and at that very same minute I fell in love with her. Here's a pic of the guitar. http://www2.gibson.c...?KeepThis=true The blonde neck it's just amazing, 50's profile neck. I saw that the price was 1300 Dollars before and at the store it was at 939 Dollars. I checked the back of the neck and it was dated 2009 (Quite weird), it wasn't pre owned, it was brand new, never shown in the store until that day. I checked the guitar it is an Gibson Les paul Studio Raw power. I played it and the Gibson’s 57 Classic pickups sound just amazing. Checked at the back of the body to see how many body pieces the guitar had, it was also painted gold in the back and the back of the neck as well, something that I never saw either before. I didn't have the money to buy it right away, but I gave them the 20% of it and now it's in hold for me. It may take some time for me to finally pay it and take it home. I thought that if I wait to save the money for that guitar, It might be to late for me to get that guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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