livemusic Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I had never adjusted the too-high action on my J-45. Read frets.com, took it on. No problem, YES! I noted when I took the saddle out that it is two-tone. Where the saddle was in the bridge, I guess that is natural color -- white? Above the bridge, it is tinted brown. What is that from? Here is pic before sanding. EDIT: The light on this shot is poor. The bottom, white section, that's the part that is in the saddle slot. EDIT: Hmmm... the backside of the saddle, the part protruding from the saddle slot but toward the endpin... it is not stained like this. Seems that smoke would cover it everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Dave Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I had never adjusted the too-high action on my J-45. Read frets.com, took it on. No problem, YES! I noted when I took the saddle out that it is two-tone. Where the saddle was in the bridge, I guess that is natural color -- white? Above the bridge, it is tinted brown. What is that from? Here is pic before sanding. Do you play in smokey environments? Only thing I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmonsh Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Do you play in smokey environments? Only thing I can think of. sure looks like smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 how old is the guitar ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livemusic Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 It is a 2010 model and I bought it new. I do not smoke. I have played in a bar a few times with that guitar but if that is smoke on there, I am a dead man. I have played there less than times with that guitar. If it were smoke, it doesn't seem there would be those streaks below the strings. It's like something was sprayed on the guitar after it was strung. Is a bone saddle normally white like that? I assume it is bone. I wish I would have tried to wipe it off to see if would come off. P.S. If that is smoke, I am shocked! I have seen casinos clean the smoke tar off of their ceilings and walls and it looks just like before and after. But as I said, I don't have that many hours in a smokey environment on that guitar. Although, it is horribly smokey in that bar. I can hardly stand to play, and in fact, I quit doing a full gig due to smoke. I now go for a couple hours, at most, that's it. And that is before the crowd gets heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Dave Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 It is a 2010 model and I bought it new. I do not smoke. I have played in a bar a few times with that guitar but if that is smoke on there, I am a dead man. I have played there less than times with that guitar. If it were smoke, it doesn't seem there would be those streaks below the strings. It's like something was sprayed on the guitar after it was strung. Is a bone saddle normally white like that? I assume it is bone. I wish I would have tried to wipe it off to see if would come off. P.S. If that is smoke, I am shocked! I have seen casinos clean the smoke tar off of their ceilings and walls and it looks just like before and after. But as I said, I don't have that many hours in a smokey environment on that guitar. Although, it is horribly smokey in that bar. I can hardly stand to play, and in fact, I quit doing a full gig due to smoke. I now go for a couple hours, at most, that's it. And that is before the crowd gets heavy. If bought new I would doubt anything would have been sprayed on durin the finishing process. Def looks more like smoke now. Scary to think it can cause that in such a short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levidale Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Wouldn't sunlight cause it to do that too? Uv rays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Wouldn't sunlight cause it to do that too? Uv rays? Possibly, for example, if the guitar were left hanging on the wall or on a stand rather than in a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarrr Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Truly, the best way to determine if its bone is to have your dog give it a sniff and then have him sniff a tusq saddle.. he knows the real thing. I have to put my spare saddles on the upper shelf so they don't get digested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipster100 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 That's pretty strange to have a saddle discolor like that. My guess is that it was either stained that way to look vintage on the top, it could be done by just dipping the saddle in a stain. Another possibility is the saddle was originaly polished with something that reacted with whatever type of polish you have used on the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Natural Gas from a Stove will change the Color of exposed Bone as well... Fumes from the Glue they use in the case will do that... even the Nitro finish will change White to yellow over time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livemusic Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 My best guess is it's a reaction to a spray polish I have used. You can see that there is a bit of a string shadow on the saddle. It doesn't make sense that it is smoke, that would be all over the saddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modoc_333 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 It is from exposure to light. That's why the back side is also not tinted. Because it is shielded when on a stand. I see this all the time. Totally normal and definitely from light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 What is the saddle made of then? I have never seen this type of shadowing. Kind of weird. Is this from new material that Gibson is using in the last few years?......Normal to you....but somehow foreign to some of us??? 'splain' it to us??????...please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I had never adjusted the too-high action on my J-45. Read frets.com, took it on. No problem, YES! I noted when I took the saddle out that it is two-tone. Where the saddle was in the bridge, I guess that is natural color -- white? Above the bridge, it is tinted brown. What is that from? Here is pic before sanding. EDIT: The light on this shot is poor. The bottom, white section, that's the part that is in the saddle slot. EDIT: Hmmm... the backside of the saddle, the part protruding from the saddle slot but toward the endpin... it is not stained like this. Seems that smoke would cover it everywhere. Quite a radius on that bugger, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modoc_333 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 What is the saddle made of then? I have never seen this type of shadowing. Kind of weird. Is this from new material that Gibson is using in the last few years?......Normal to you....but somehow foreign to some of us??? 'splain' it to us??????...please both bone and tusq will do this. tusq does it to a greater extreme. it's just like the clear coat turning yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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