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I have one of these:

Korg Vox APJS amPlug Joe Satriani Guitar Headphone Amp

 

I use it with an old cheap Radio Shack headphones with a volume control slider on the cord.

The headphones are not the nice kind with cups that enclose the ears, but just foam ones that fit up against the ears.

 

What is a better enclosed cup to go with that is decent?

 

Thanks...

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I have one of these:

Korg Vox APJS amPlug Joe Satriani Guitar Headphone Amp

 

I use it with an old cheap Radio Shack headphones with a volume control slider on the cord.

The headphones are not the nice kind with cups that enclose the ears, but just foam ones that fit up against the ears.

 

What is a better enclosed cup to go with that is decent?

 

Thanks...

I have found that you usually get what you pay for when it comes to headphones.

But I found the AKG K77 is well made, works well, and is about $50.

I've had mine for over a year and had no problems. I use them a lot too.

 

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/akg-k77-headphones

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You might try hitting a stereo shop or something of the like.

 

I don't know current models, but a place that has brands like SENNHEISER, GRADO, AKG, in a stereo-type shop that sells headphone for enjoyment rather than "pro-audio" applications will have MUCH better options at much better prices. As in better sound for less money, and something more versital AND suitable.

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I've been using these daily the last few months, and they're great. I had a pair of "Ultimate Ears" before(well, I still have them, but they met my vacuum a while back [thumbdn] ), and far prefer the Sennheisers for quiet playing and general listening.

 

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD280Pro?utm_source=none&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=none&gclid=CLfKt-KanbECFQ-c7Qodj1en0A

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I use these Sony ones... they sound great.. always been happy with them and they are a good price.

http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/6383468/Sony-MDR-V150-Headphones/Product.html?_%24ja=tsid:11518%7Ccat:6383468%7Cprd:6383468

I just checked in my locker here at work, and I have a pair in there of the Sony V150s that I use at work during online training.

The reviews at Amazon said they break easily, I have never had a problem with them here at work for the past several years.

 

I see they have the V250V with an inline volume which is a feature I like, and they are a tad cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V250V-Monitor-Headphones-In-line/dp/B00001W0DC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1342432883&sr=8-2&keywords=Sony+MDR-V150

But reading the reviews the V150s seem to be better quality.

I think for the price I will give the 150s a try.

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My Shure SRH440 are great, but one you get to the $200 range you can see how much better headphones are. The Shure SRH840 are far superior but double in price.

 

The Sennheiser HD380 and HD380 is the same comparison, you go from $99 to $199 but the HD380 blow anything out of the water, I mean the level of detail is just incrdible. I was taken back by the fact that you can her stuff that you never heard before even if you are playing an MP3.

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What are you looking for: isolation or fidelity? For fidelity, you cannot beat AKG K 240s. They'll give you a clean, true, and un-EQ'd sound. They aren't cheap, but like was said before, you get what you pay for. For isolation, check out a pair of Vic Firth drummer headphones. I have a pair for recording and the will block out a lot of external noise.

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Thought about buying a similar unit (Vox, but not Satriani) a few times. I was just going to use my iPod ear buds, not a good idea?

 

Yikes. The ear buds that come with iPods are horrible. Please, treat your ears better than that. As a musician, your ears deserve it.

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What are you looking for: isolation or fidelity? For fidelity, you cannot beat AKG K 240s. They'll give you a clean, true, and un-EQ'd sound. They aren't cheap, but like was said before, you get what you pay for. For isolation, check out a pair of Vic Firth drummer headphones. I have a pair for recording and the will block out a lot of external noise.

The headphones will only be used for the two guitars when running the Vox Satriani headphone amp.

 

For music listening at home, I just use the Logitech Z680s for the TV and my PC.

I have two sets of the Z680s, incredible sounding.

 

For isolated music, I have Sony Bluetooth headphones for my Droid, so the headphones I am buying are really only going to be used for the guitar and Vox thing.

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Yikes. The ear buds that come with iPods are horrible. Please, treat your ears better than that. As a musician, your ears deserve it.

I was just reading this morning on the reviews at Amazon of headphones how the in ear buds can really screw your ears up, and those who have listened with them a long time have a hard time going to regular headphones, and claim they can not hear as well since they are not in the ear canal.

The damage has already been done to their ears.

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I just checked in my locker here at work, and I have a pair in there of the Sony V150s that I use at work during online training.

The reviews at Amazon said they break easily, I have never had a problem with them here at work for the past several years.

 

I see they have the V250V with an inline volume which is a feature I like, and they are a tad cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V250V-Monitor-Headphones-In-line/dp/B00001W0DC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1342432883&sr=8-2&keywords=Sony+MDR-V150

But reading the reviews the V150s seem to be better quality.

I think for the price I will give the 150s a try.

Yeah I have used those for about 10 years to do all my recording and mixing and they still work fine :) [thumbup]

 

I will buy them again if my current ones ever die ;)

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The headphones will only be used for the two guitars when running the Vox Satriani headphone amp.

 

For music listening at home, I just use the Logitech Z680s for the TV and my PC.

I have two sets of the Z680s, incredible sounding.

 

For isolated music, I have Sony Bluetooth headphones for my Droid, so the headphones I am buying are really only going to be used for the guitar and Vox thing.

If you HAVE some quality headphones, one thing you could do is use those for the guitar thing.

 

Just a suggestion, but follow me on this: what sense does it make to spend money on a set of headphones that will not sound as good as a pair you have? So, if you were to buy a set that are cheaper than the ones you have, really you are spending money to downgrade.

 

So, one IDEA for buying a set of headphones would be to spend money on a set that could be used for more than one thing. If you have 3 poeple that need headphones, you need three headphones, but if you only need one at a time, it might make more sense to buy one set for 150 bucks then 3 sets for 50 bucks.

 

Not pretending to know your situation or tell you how you should use them or what to buy...just setting up for suggestions you might consider. Said all that to say, is that the comments above are very true: you get what you pay for. At the extremes, you COULD buy a set for 600 bucks (yes, they exist AND sell) that blow away thousands of dollars in quality stereo amps and speakers. You might be amazed at what you can hear.

 

Siad all THAT to say is that IF you were to actually find a place and be able to try a bunch out, you might also be amazed at what you could get for say, 50 bucks or 100 bucks....as in how close some of these come to a 600 dollar pair. While it is true that you get what you pay for, not all headphones are created equal.

 

Someone made a suggestion for some Sennheisers from musicians friend. I don't think you could go wrong with those. Sennhiesers have a very good rep for sound quality and are REDICULASLY comfortable. What they actually are is a "pro audio" version of thier "audiophile" headphones, made by simply making a closed-back version of an open back version. (Sennheiser specialises in headphones, and particularly makes open back headphones...what that means is they aren't sealed from outside noise, where a "closed back" headphone is sealed to block outside noise). What you have with a pair of closed back Sennheisers ends up being in most cases a slightly "downgraded" headphone as far as sound quality is concerned in return for a closed back version for the pro-audio guys, but at the same time a headphone that out-performs most other headphones for the same application.

 

Anyway, closed back vs open back: having a "sealed" set of headphones does NOT mean they sound better, or that blocking outside noise results in better sound. Open backed GENERALLY sound better and are safer for your ears. It means when you are listening, if someone wanted to talk to you or want to hear the phone ring, you might hear it or just have to turn the volume down to hear someone. The main reason sealed headphones are more "accepted" in pro-audio applications is that often when an engineer is working, he might need to hear the tape WITHOUT the speakers everyone else is listening through. But if you are recording alone of don't have speakers running, open-back are at least as good.

 

IF you wanted to spend the time and effort, finding a place that specialises in headphones MIGHT be worthwhile to find the perfect set for what you want. You might even learn what the open-backed version of the Sennhiesers are and discover they are less money, or a better pair for the same money. You might also discover you could get some headphones for a good price that work better for ALL your uses, or certain headphones for certain uses.

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I just checked in my locker here at work, and I have a pair in there of the Sony V150s that I use at work during online training.

The reviews at Amazon said they break easily, I have never had a problem with them here at work for the past several years.

 

I see they have the V250V with an inline volume which is a feature I like, and they are a tad cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V250V-Monitor-Headphones-In-line/dp/B00001W0DC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1342432883&sr=8-2&keywords=Sony+MDR-V150

But reading the reviews the V150s seem to be better quality.

I think for the price I will give the 150s a try.

Yeah there is that with the plastic.. but they are cheap :) (but like anything if you take care of your stuff they will be ok)... There are more in that line like these

http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/3275372/-/Product.html

 

which are meant to have a bit better build quality.. But I still say for the price these cant be beat.. The sound is just amazing..

 

Let me know what you think if you get them :)

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I was just reading this morning on the reviews at Amazon of headphones how the in ear buds can really screw your ears up, and those who have listened with them a long time have a hard time going to regular headphones, and claim they can not hear as well since they are not in the ear canal.

The damage has already been done to their ears.

 

Yes. My point was more that those ear buds have lower fidelity and do not fit well; at least in my ears they do not. So to compensate people tend to crank the volume and add all sorts of unnecessary EQs. It's a vicious cycle of ear abuse and fatigue. If the headphones fit well and sound great then you won't have to crank the volume to get the same audio pleasure.

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Stein, thanks for all the info.

 

Rabs, I ordered the Sony V150s, they will arrive Wednesday.

To be honest with you, the cheap $20 or $30 old Radio Shack ones I have been using with the guitar sound pretty good, but I wanted a cup up against the ear, and since I like the Sony V150s I have here at work, the new ones should do just fine.

The Radio Shack ones the foam is falling apart, hence why I wanted to look into something else.

 

I may look into a more expensive pair down the line.

May have to take my guitar and Vox headphone amp to a nice stereo place one day and test more $$$ ones out.

That would be the best way to do it with taking the guitar there.

 

I will mainly be using these to play the guitars out on my front porch, or inside when I do not feel like firing up the amps.

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+1 for all the Sennheiser recommendations. I've used the same HD201's for about 6 years for everything from listening to music, playing guitar, mixing, etc and they refuse to fail. The cords are really tough which is a plus, put some serious knots, pulls and other abuse into mine and they've never shorted (knock on wood, today they'll stop [blush]). They can handle a good amount of volume without crapping out and the sound quality is pretty good.

 

[Edit] Whoops, shoulda kept reading. I've had some good pairs of Sony's as well, enjoy!

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