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2017 J-45 - factory strings? What strings come on the J-45 from the factory?

#1 User is offline   tcbonline 

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:28 AM

I recently purchased a 2017 J-45 and really like the strings that are on it from the factory.

I've been scouring the forums trying to find out definitively what these strings are. Nobody seems to know with any certainty. The case came with an extra package of masterbuilt 80/20 light strings in it, but those are definitely not the strings that are on the guitar.

Can someone from Gibson comment? I know they are light guage, but I want the make and model of the strings specifically, if possible... please!

Thanks for any info,
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:38 AM

How do you know the strings in the packet arenít the same as the strings on the guitar?
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:40 AM

far from an expert here, but I am pretty sure master builts are the strings it leave the factory with.

Where did you get the guitar? if was at a Gibson dealer, they could have changed the strings at some point.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:49 AM

 kidblast, on 07 September 2017 - 09:40 AM, said:

far from an expert here, but I am pretty sure master builts are the strings it leave the factory with.

Where did you get the guitar? if was at a Gibson dealer, they could have changed the strings at some point.


This makes a bit of sense
But Iím still baffled as how anyone would know that strings on a guitar , age undetermined , are different to strings still in a packet !


No offence OP , just want some of this knowledge
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:56 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 07 September 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

How do you know the strings in the packet arenít the same as the strings on the guitar?


I'm basing this just off my observations. The strings that came on the guitar are darker, more of a subdued brown color, something I associate with phosphor bronze and are slicker to slide under the fingers. The masterbuilt 80/20 strings are a very bright yellow color and stickier. I could be completely wrong, but just from appearance and feel, the strings seem different.

I did buy the guitar from Sweetwater. Typically the guitars you get from them are factory fresh and not played previously. I'm also assuming they did not change the strings from the factory set.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:57 AM

If the extra set included were MB 80/20 it is very likely the guitar is strung with the same. Why would they not be? In any event, 80/20 is quite bright in appearance right out of the package but will tarnish pretty rapidly, even if unplayed. Phosphor bronze are more a copper color out of the package.

My money is on 80/20 on the guitar.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:59 AM

You could mail them and ask

A potential buyer mightíve asked for a specific string to be fitted for a test drive and decided no



As far as Iím aware gibson string are factory fitted , but Gibson strings are just rebranded daddarrio strings
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:08 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 07 September 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

You could mail them and ask

A potential buyer mightíve asked for a specific string to be fitted for a test drive and decided no



As far as Iím aware gibson string are factory fitted , but Gibson strings are just rebranded daddarrio strings


I have emailed them. Hopefully I'll get an answer. Some others on the forum said that they thought they were D'Addario EXP strings or possibly the J-200 gibson pb strings, which seems like a possibility.

Anyway, if I hear a definitive answer from Gibson I'll let you guys know!
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:41 AM

Gibson's site appears to say that the original strings are the light gauge Masterbuilt Premiium 80/20. See the J-45 specs (they should have spell-checked this ;) ): http://www.gibson.co...dard/Specs.aspx

"Strings .012" - .053" Gibson Light Guage"

Then see the Masterbuilt Premium page: http://store.gibson....guitar-strings/

"Gibson 80/20 Bronze alloy strings are known for their perfect balance of crisp, bright tone and playability. These strings –the very same that come with Gibson Acoustic instruments – bring out the true acoustic sound that only can come from a historically constructed, hand-built guitar"
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 11:32 AM

From your description, they're D'Addario EXP PB.

I use these strings on my guitars that don't like Martin 80/20s. Great strings with something of a dull, subdued brown tint and slick feel.

Oddly enough I've JUST put a set on my Hummingbird which is in my lap as we speak!
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:35 PM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 07 September 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:



, but Gibson strings are just rebranded daddarrio strings


No offense, BBG, but are you sure about this??
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:41 PM

 Joe M, on 07 September 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

No offense, BBG, but are you sure about this??


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You donít think gibson make their own strings do you

Fingers crossed someone will defend me
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:52 PM

Another vote here for the Masterbuilts being on your new J-45.

If they're the D'Addarios (& not re-branded to Masterbuilts), look inside for the colored ball ends.

Use an image hosting site like imgur & share a snap with us. Congrats on the nice guitar.

As far as rebranded D'Adds; quite sure Elixir does this as well, but the ball ends are unpainted for the E's.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 02:11 PM

 blindboygrunt, on 07 September 2017 - 01:41 PM, said:

90something%

You donít think gibson make their own strings do you

Fingers crossed someone will defend me


I just searched the Internet with the question and the answer I found was D'Addario.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 03:57 AM

Still not sure about the maker of the Masterbuilts. Some sources say D'Addario, others say no. I do know that Fender DOES make their own strings, guess it might not be a stretch to think Gibson does also. I guess this is one of those first world problems that might never be answered with certainty.

As to the OP's question, I'm pretty sure that all new Gibsons do come with the Masterbuilts on them, just like the set that is included with a new guitar. I did, however, have one local Gibson dealer insist that the strings on a new Gibson, from the factory, were D'Addario's EXP's. No amount of discussion could dissuade him otherwise.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 04:39 AM

I been looking far into this regarding my 2012 Hummingbird as I really liked the original sound and found it hard to recreate at some point.
Discussed it back'n'forth via P.M. with (too seldom present) member Father of Pearl, who had been through similar investigations.

The argument for the fac-strings not being ordinary Masterbuilts obviously is that a coating would keep them fresher on the shop-wall for a longer time.
Both Taylor and Martin think that way.

However I've come to find that they could very well have been Masterbuilts as claimed.
This dawned after a new set of MB's stayed on the guitar for more that 4 month and were played a lot.
After all the Bird was 12 months old when I fell for it.

I actually went as far as revisiting the shop to buy a set of used strings right off another Hummingbird during the experiments -
still have them around (, , later bought the whole Bird).

1 thing is sure - the factory strings are bronze not phosphor ditto. It's seen on the hue - one bronzy the other golden.
Admit bein' unable to remember what is what as I speak - which of course is ubearable embarrassing.

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 02:06 PM

I had this same question and called Gibson. The first guy I spoke with told me they were D'addario 80/20s. I didnt believe it so I called again and got another guy telling me they were same as the masterbuilts included. I believed this even less, so I called a third time, and got another person telling me they were D'addario phosphor bronze. I've tried both D'addario 80/20s and PBs, but neither really sound/look like the originals. The original also had no colored balls like the D'addarios, but Gibson said that was bc they just commission strings from D'addario, so there's a chance only new gibsons get this particular batch. Thanks, I'm going to try EXPs.

Here's my thread from the other forum:

http://www.acousticg...ad.php?t=463150
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 03:48 PM

I am 99,9% positive that new Gibson Acoustics, from 2013 on, come from the factory with Masterbuilt 80/20s. (I love them on my hummingbirds)

Just based on my personnal experience of trying brand new Gibsons in shops those last years : consistantly the same sound and feel and look, definitely factory Masterbuilt 80/20s.
On my own Gibsons I compared those factory strings with Daddario EJ11, 80/20s, 53-12s, : exact same strings, sound, feel, look, except the colored ball ends on Daddarios.

To me, as BBG said, Daddario makes EJ11s for Gibson.

Over here, when the Masterbuilts 80/20 12s are not out of stock, they're priced just a hair above the EJ11s, just paying for the Gibson packaging...
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