Pin Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 What is it about the colour "Pelham Blue"? Why is it that it is considered attractive? I find it awful. I can just about accept Cherry red or Wine red and that is it for self-colouring for me. Everything else is undesirable. Now what is desirable is various versions of sunburst or natural. Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Sort of with you, not a big fan of those kind of colors either I've a 96 Wine Red LP standard. it's very dark. almost looks black. but it's hands down the best playing / responsive guitar I have. I do like the tasty new Bursts that Gibson has been coming out with recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I like Pelham Blue. I also like TV Yellow, Trans Green, Silver, Blue, Purple and Red Sparkle and most of the other not-so-common colors they put out. What I dont like is Vintage Sunburst with too much yellow in the center and that awful Heritage Cherry Clownburst. Just my opnion though. We all have different tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 weird thread. but since you asked, i think it's one of the most incredible colors i have ever seen in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Zeplin Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Same here. While some may like it I would never own a pelham blue guitar...or red/cherry, sunburst or not. Not knocking those who do like them but it just doesn't do it for me. On the other hand I like flamed green or purple but most of my guitars are black so what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 weird thread. but since you asked, i think it's one of the most incredible colors i have ever seen in my life. Weird? I find that remark weird to be honest. It is just an expression of personal taste - simple as that. I see lots of threads on here extolling Pelham Blue and I detest the colour so just gave a voice to my feeling. Take or leave it old chap! I am not forcing you to any opinion. It is just a bit of fun that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 and i'm giving my opinion on the thread. it's like you are needing to vent over a color. op is a raging anti-pelhamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 op is a raging anti-pelhamite. True! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 there ya go. turn about is fair play on the internet eh. \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomer Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I like Pelham Blue. What I dont like is Vintage Sunburst with too much yellow in the center and that awful Heritage Cherry Clownburst. [thumbup] I also like... Trans Green...Blue...Purple... We all have different tastes. Don't we just! Being reminded that green & purple guitars exist makes me want to "vent over a color" (great phrase Scott.) I'd also like to vent over AAA grade tiger-stripe maple tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pin Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 there ya go. turn about is fair play on the internet eh. \:D/ Sure is old chap. In fact you can't beat it. Have a good year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomse Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Pelham blue is a nice color . They make so many colors now it nice to see it happen . Thank god the world is not just one color . I think they make so many colors so every body can buy the color they like . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Sure is old chap. In fact you can't beat it. Have a good year. and you too. hopefully you are feeling better now that you got this off your chest; it would be a pity to start the new year off with pelham blue color dragging you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'd also like to vent over AAA grade tiger-stripe maple tops. I'm with you. I like a little flame in a Les Paul but don't like the super tiger flamed tops. They look fake to me. I don't care for Pelham blue either. I do like white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I will respectfully disagree with the OP and say that I like Pelham Blue. I think it looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 While I like a nice flame or quilted top, I cant say that I'm a fan of them in veneer form. I have a nice bass in non-veneered natural flame maple...oh MAMA is it a beaut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntrem Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The older pelhams turned green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Johntrem makes a very valid point that few consider: All "color," even "black" on guitar finishes, printing ink, etc., etc., is a matter of pigment in some sort of carrying medium. Pigment fades; different pigments fade differently. Even "black" is usually a matter of a carbon "black" which really isn't quite black, and green and/or blue pigment of some sort is added. Bottom line here is that any "color" that involves more than one sort of pigment will shift color during the process of fading. You don't need a spectrophotometer to see that proven, either. Any sort of comparison should make that rather obvious. Expectation to the contrary is bound to bring disappointment. Yes, some pigments will last longer than others, but few last as long as some purchasers believe they "should." I'll add also that the color of light on a guitar finish, even "natural" light outdoors, also will change one's perception of "color." Ditto in some applications with the color of the underlying wood. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Zeplin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The older pelhams turned green. So did older goldtops with nitro finish due to the bronze powder oxidizing. Not likely to happen to poly finished guitars. All of the ice tea, honeyburst, etc. is due to the fading of the red dye in the older cherry sunbursts. Varying amounts of fading in the originals led us to the various burst colours replicated on newer guitars. Near the end of the original sunburst LPs they changed the dye so that it didn't fade so much but turned out ot be the tomato soup burst(1960). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 So did older goldtops with nitro finish due to the bronze powder oxidizing. Not likely to happen to poly finished guitars. It really depends on how much UV exposure the poly gets over time. It will turn yellow over time if exposed to enough sunlight. I've seen plenty of blue epiphones with a green tinge from too much UV where the area under the pickguard or some other covered area was still blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Zeplin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It really depends on how much UV exposure the poly gets over time. It will turn yellow over time if exposed to enough sunlight. I've seen plenty of blue epiphones with a green tinge from too much UV where the area under the pickguard or some other covered area was still blue. Yeah I know they fade but the greening is a little different. Maybe the modern finishes behave differently than the older ones. I had an Epi acoustic and the top,natural, faded nicely even though it was a poly finish. Actually it didn't fade but turned darker over the ten years I had it (although there was no pigment involved in that one). My old trans amber Epi LP turned darker too and looked better, to my eyes, with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Zeplin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'll add also that the color of light on a guitar finish, even "natural" light outdoors, also will change one's perception of "color." Ditto in some applications with the color of the underlying wood. m Absolutely. My iced tea LP looks very different outside in natural sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 There would be three factors involved if a finish is transparent or translucent. There's the wood itself and how it responds to age, weather and the finish; the medium carrying the pigments will age one way or another; and the pigments. Whether a given instrument/finish ages as an owner might prefer is subject to the perspective of the owner. But all will age and change in various qualities, including "color." m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah I know they fade but the greening is a little different. Maybe the modern finishes behave differently than the older ones. I had an Epi acoustic and the top,natural, faded nicely even though it was a poly finish. Actually it didn't fade but turned darker over the ten years I had it (although there was no pigment involved in that one). My old trans amber Epi LP turned darker too and looked better, to my eyes, with age. Most of the blue Epiphones that I've seen green out were from the 1990's, so the poly may be different now. I had a nice Epiphone Expert 6 in natural ash that darkened up really nice too. It hung on the shelf of a music store for about five years before I bought it and the areas under the factory stickers was considerably lighter than the rest of the guitar. It took about ten years for those areas to catch up to the rest of the body...and even then you could still barely see it if you looked for it. oh, it had a porous matte finish on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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