PickitPaul Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Who are these bidders? Must be shills. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Gibson-J-50-Acoustic-guitar-with-original-case-/111470231473?pt=Guitar&hash=item19f424bfb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 A friend of the bidder is a friend of mine? ; ). The first three bids were real at the low get-in amounts. Seller has zero eBay transactions, and the other red flag: "here's my fishy gmail address so we can settle this scam outside of eBay buyer protection land". Nice guitar, nice shack, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Scam. Those cannot possibly be legitimate bids. Of course, all the seller needs is on legitimate bid at these levels, and he's home free. If you buy into this one, I'm going to get my Nigerian solicitor to contact you about helping us move some money around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I think I've seen those pictures recently on a legit eBay sale. I think it was in upstate NY. I vote "scam" ...... Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 How does one retract a bid on ebay? (kidding!) There is a "vintage" bubble right now IMO. Even on AGF you have Vintage dealers starting threads on Vintage vs New... Seeds get planted... and sick individuals like all of us suddenly decide we NEED the sound of 1939 D18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 You are correct, Rich... Original eBay listing of '56 J-50 Ended without a nibble at the too-high starting amount. Hijacked listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Based on what mid-1950s Gibsons sell for around here - anybody asking $6500 is on puppy chow. The well known store down the road a piece has a '43 J45 (with a replaced bridge) up for grabs at $5750. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 It's a scam. This idiot has run many guitar auctions in the past where he say's not to bid before contacting him first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 If you looked at the lower part of the description.. There was a Do not bid in a square box with a email addy.. a 100% scam.. also every picture posted by the scammer was different in the other sales. they do this often.. report as many times as you can.. get rid of those pilferers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 How does the do not bid without contacting me first work in the scam? Does the seller use that to offer you the guitar in a direct sale or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Yes, the gmail address (in blue) may be a graphic inserted into the body of the ad; I think inclusion of an email address is against eBay rules, since it would promote buying outside of eBay, dodging their fees as well as any buyer protection that they could offer. Ok. A new wrinkle: the opening bid amount had been reset to a ridiculously low starting amount, $20. Funny, I didn't think you could change the listing once the auction had begun, yet there is no history of a completed listing for when the auction had a starting bid of $16,500. Usually eBay will end the ad, with the message "auction has been ended because there was an error in the listing". (Edit: yes, the starting bid amount can be changed, up to a certain point in time before the auction close- IF no one has has yet bid on the item.) Also- to give benefit of the doubt, those who flip guitars often re-use original seller's photos. They just don't ask ten thousand dollars more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfbird Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 How do you report these scams to eBay? Is there a link to click or is it some difficult, obscure method? And do they actually take action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Yes, there's a report this item button in the listing which is what I did a couple of days ago. Last time I checked the item was still there but the amount of bids totaled 162.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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