fauvent Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Hello guys, Since I am planning to buy a used J45 (because I cant find the specific model I want brand new) I have been very careful checking the details on the guitars I see, searching for "inconsistencies" to spot the fake ones. Recently I notice something. Some gibson logos in the headstok, show the "i" dot, sitcked to the G, others not. Is that some kind of "logo adjustment? If so since when? Here I post some examples: J45 standard 2007 http://www.sheltonsguitars.com/2008/4-6-08/gibson-j-45-sb-4-6-08.html J45 standard 2006 http://denverfolklore.com/instrument_photos/Gibson_J-45_photos.htm Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauvent Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Hello guys, Since I am planning to buy a used J45 (because I cant find the specific model I want brand new) I have been very careful checking the details on the guitars I see, searching for "inconsistencies" to spot the fake ones. Recently I notice something. Some gibson logos in the headstok, show the "i" dot, sitcked to the G, others not. Is that some kind of "logo adjustment? If so since when? Here I post some examples: J45 standard 2006 http://denverfolklore.com/instrument_photos/Gibson_J-45_photos.htm J45 standard 2007 http://www.sheltonsguitars.com/2008/4-6-08/gibson-j-45-sb-4-6-08.html Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I don't see much of a difference to be honest. Maybe the fact that the photos were taken at different angles throws your eye off. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 There is a difference in those two pictures on those logos .. but Nothing to be alarmed with.. there both Gibsons.. Not fakes. every J45 is different.. right from the 90s right up to now.. look at the different model designations.. To many.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauvent Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 There is a difference in those two pictures on those logos .. but Nothing to be alarmed with.. there both Gibsons.. Not fakes. No no no, You don't see the i's dot sticked to the G? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 . Over the years there's been a bit on inconsistency with the modern Gibson script logo - dot above the 'i', dot of the 'i' touching the 'G', no dot over the 'i', open 'b' & 'o', closed 'b' & 'o', etc, etc. We had a good thread on it a couple weeks ago - http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/74747-gbsons-headstock-logos/page__p__1616729__hl__logo__fromsearch__1#entry1616729 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauvent Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 There is a difference in those two pictures on those logos .. but Nothing to be alarmed with.. there both Gibsons.. Not fakes. every J45 is different.. right from the 90s right up to now.. look at the different model designations.. To many.. I guess so, Looks like the logo, at least in the j45, was re-designed on 2007. Thank you for your answer, slimt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauvent Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 . Over the years there's been a bit on inconsistency with the modern Gibson script logo - dot above the 'i', dot of the 'i' touching the 'G', no dot over the 'i', open 'b' & 'o', closed 'b' & 'o', etc, etc. We had a good thread on it a couple weeks ago - http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/74747-gbsons-headstock-logos/page__p__1616729__hl__logo__fromsearch__1#entry1616729 . Wow, Great post, BigKahune, Thanks a lot for sharing! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Wow, Great post, BigKahune, Thanks a lot for sharing! :) Logos are the least to be concerned with.. back in the 60s some gibsons were inconsistant on serial numbers.. Nowdays.. Look at all the different type of woods being used.. and the Pearls or pearl less guitars being made of the same model guitars.. 30 years from now.. it would be interesting to see who can break down the type of woods that was used on a paticular guitar in that given year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauvent Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Logos are the least to be concerned with.. back in the 60s some gibsons were inconsistant on serial numbers.. Nowdays.. Look at all the different type of woods being used.. and the Pearls or pearl less guitars being made of the same model guitars.. 30 years from now.. it would be interesting to see who can break down the type of woods that was used on a paticular guitar in that given year.. You're right slimt, That would be very interested from a historc point of view. I just brought up the topic, because I was trying to define if that could be a red light in a fake gibson. Anyway, thanks a lot for your 20 cents! Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasAK Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Interestingly my 08 has the logo as your 06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarLight Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Such obvios and blatant inconsistantcy in Gibson models, decade after decade, over and over and over, simply delights the counterfitters. They know that there are so many different versions of Gibsons, that even if their own conterfit versiion of a Gibson is slightly different or off, no one may notice. Except of course the experts in here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 no one may notice. Except of course the experts in here! And, of course, you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarLight Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 And, of course, you Thanks for the compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 You're right slimt, That would be very interested from a historc point of view. I just brought up the topic, because I was trying to define if that could be a red light in a fake gibson. Anyway, thanks a lot for your 20 cents! Regards! Well, the fakes cannot get the logo right period,, and the Headstocks and Heals seem to be way off.. But I will say.. alot of these fake Gibson Les pauls Ive seen.. mostly have the guts from the epiphones. so theres some funny things going on over there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauvent Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Interestingly my 08 has the logo as your 06. chasAk, I wish that one was mine. I just took the picture from the internet. But yes, most 2006 has that kind of logo. With the i's dot touching the G. Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauvent Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Well, the fakes cannot get the logo right period,, and the Headstocks and Heals seem to be way off.. But I will say.. alot of these fake Gibson Les pauls Ive seen.. mostly have the guts from the epiphones. so theres some funny things going on over there.. That could be a good way to spot fakes, cheking the logo-period accuracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Such obvios and blatant inconsistantcy in Gibson models, decade after decade, over and over and over, simply delights the counterfitters. They know that there are so many different versions of Gibsons, that even if their own conterfit versiion of a Gibson is slightly different or off, no one may notice. Except of course the experts in here! I agree. Chevrolet has done the same thing over the decades with their 'bowtie' logo. Changed it dozens of times! I was duped into buying a Corvette Stingray made in China a few years ago. I should have been suspicious - the 'i' in Stingray wasn't dotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarLight Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I agree. Chevrolet has done the same thing over the decades with their 'bowtie' logo. Changed it dozens of times! I was duped into buying a Corvette Stingray made in China a few years ago. I should have been suspicious - the 'i' in Stingray wasn't dotted. I like banjos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I like banjos. Really? Me too ! I'm partial to the 5 stringers - how do you like the new six string ones? I got stuck on a nice Epiphone 7 stringer once. I should have known - the 'e' at the end hat a little curly thing that made it look like a 'y'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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