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Which Les Paul is this, .. a real Gibson ?

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Hi,

 

I just don't know if this guitar is a real Gibson or even if it's a studio or a standard ect ... the only thing i know is that, she was made in 2005 ... please can you help me about this (look at the images) ..& how is his value ?

Thanks a lot

 

Daniel

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Appears real to me, however that head stock looks like it has been broken off at some point which reduces its value considerably.

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Appears real to me, however that head stock looks like it has been broken off at some point which reduces its value considerably.

 

 

Yes the guitar has been broken Big Bill, but this is why i ask which model is this to get the right price ... a studio ? ... if the head stock hve been repair correctly, it should be ok ???

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Yes the guitar has been broken Big Bill, but this is why i ask which model is this to get the right price ... a studio ? ... if the head stock hve been repair correctly, it should be ok ???

 

It looks to be an 05 Classic, not a Studio. Studios don't have binding. Looks like they're going for around $1500. This one has a break in the neck near the headstock so that'll take off a considerable amount. What are they asking for it? Are you able to see it in person? It's hard to tell from a picture as to how well the neck break was fixed. The fact that it's visible concerns me enough that I wouldn't buy it.

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It looks to be an 05 Classic, not a Studio. Studios don't have binding. Looks like they're going for around $1500. This one has a break in the neck near the headstock so that'll take off a considerable amount. What are they asking for it? Are you able to see it in person? It's hard to tell from a picture as to how well the neck break was fixed. The fact that it's visible concerns me enough that I wouldn't buy it.

 

Hi Micheal,

 

It's 950$ cnd ... yes i will see the seller in person ... the reconstruction of the guitar is visible yes !

 

 

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Hi Micheal,

 

It's 950$ cnd ... yes i will see the seller in person ... the reconstruction of the guitar is visible yes !

 

Don't even bother going to see it.

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Outch !

 

If you're going to buy a guitar with a headstock repair it needs to be all but invisible, and at half the usual value. This one is neither so there's no point going to see it.

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If you're going to buy a guitar with a headstock repair it needs to be all but invisible, and at half the usual value. This one is neither so there's no point going to see it.

This.

 

Pip.

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Oh, for under $1K I would check it out for sure. Visible repairs may be hack jobs, but also may be solid repairs needing finish touch up. I would happily pay $1K for a solid Classic that looks as good as that one, and has a good neck repair. If it's a crappy repair job, I wouldn't buy it at all. I think it depends on what you are willing to accept and what work you can do. I can readily undertake a finish repair, etc., so a guitar like this could be a great deal for someone like me. Someone who doesn't want to do their own repair work would want to avoid it.

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...which model is this to get the right price ... a studio?...

Just an afterthought; I think, judging by the finish, that the model in question is actually a Standard Faded. Hard to tell from the snaps posted but it doesn't look to have a glossy finish.

It's not a '1960 Classic' as the serial numbering for that model is ink stamped - not impressed - and is of either 4(1989), 5 (1990's) or six (2000's) digits.

 

The Standard Faded (if it is one) is actually quite a sought-after model and are priced accordingly so if the broken headstock isn't too off-putting and the guitar is likely to be a 'keeper' then it might be worthwhile acquiring it. If so, it's probably best to bear in mind that if you decide to sell it at some time in the future you will find yourself having to justify your own asking price for a guitar with a less-than-perfect-headstock-break-and-repair.

 

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I agree with pretty much everything that has been said previously, it does appear to be authentic. But the neck repair cuts the value in half, something I just experienced with a 2004 Gibson SG Standard that had a repaired hairline fracture. The tuners look new, to shiny and don't match the patina of the other nickel hardware that make it look older. The big question is what does it play like, not all Les Paul's are equal, it might have a neck like silk, some just play better than others. In its condition a Les Paul Standard Faded Honeyburst or Cherry Sunburst value depends a lot on the year of manufacture. If it turns out to be something rare, it will still be still effected by the neck repair. [confused]

 

Guitar Dater Project lists the SN# 00335427 as...

 

Nashville Plant, TN, USA

on February 2nd, 2005

Production Number: 127

 

Reverb price guide shows Good condition sales at $1300 to Excellent at $2000

Edited by mihcmac

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That body is nice. A little flame by the switch and cut away and plain down by the strap button.

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It looks like a 2000 model and not an '05. Also looks like one of the alternate woods like mahogany. serial number starts 00, it just might be a 2000 model. In 2000 the first 2 numbers on LP's were year. It looks like this to me, http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2016/USA/Les-Paul-Standard-Mahogany-Top.aspx

Edited by Roach

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Guitar Dater Project lists the SN# 00335427 as...

 

Nashville Plant, TN, USA

on February 2nd, 2005

Production Number: 127

 

Reverb price guide shows Good condition sales at $1300 to Excellent at $2000

 

That guitar dater site is unreliable. It just told me that same serial number was:

Your guitar was made at the <br style="box-sizing: border-box;">Kalamazoo Or Nashville Plant, USA<br style="box-sizing: border-box;">in 1976<br style="box-sizing: border-box;">Production Number: 335427

It goes on to say that the 00 in the serial is the year. It is a 2000 model for sure.

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That guitar dater site is unreliable. It just told me that same serial number was:

Your guitar was made at the <br style="box-sizing: border-box;">Kalamazoo Or Nashville Plant, USA<br style="box-sizing: border-box;">in 1976<br style="box-sizing: border-box;">Production Number: 335427

It goes on to say that the 00 in the serial is the year. It is a 2000 model for sure.

 

Gibson serial numbers at the time used the first and fifth digit for the year, in this case 2005.

Edited by zeplin

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It looks to be an 05 Classic, not a Studio. Studios don't have binding. Looks like they're going for around $1500. This one has a break in the neck near the headstock so that'll take off a considerable amount. What are they asking for it? Are you able to see it in person? It's hard to tell from a picture as to how well the neck break was fixed. The fact that it's visible concerns me enough that I wouldn't buy it.

 

I don't think it is a Classic. At that time they were using greenish inlays.

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from Reverb's How to date a Gibson...

 

1977 to Current

 

Starting in 1977, Gibson adopted the current date-based serial system which codes for the year and day of production. The first number of the sequence indicates the decade of production, followed by the three digit day of the year, and finally the year. For example, the serial number 90237XXX corresponds to a production date of 1/23/97. The last three (or four as of 2005) digits signify the location of production and batch number, respectively, but this information isn't necessary to accurately dating your instrument.

 

SN# 00335427

 

0 = Decade, XX0X

 

033 = Day of the year, February 2nd

 

5 = Year, XXX5

 

427 = Location of production Nashville and Batch number 127

 

Looks a lot like this 2005 Les Paul Standard Faded on Reverb

 

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notice it doesn't seem to have any telltale holes from removing a pickguard as this model introduced in 2005 didn't have one.

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I stand corrected on the year.

My 2000 starts with 00 and I was told by gibson the first two were the year, however the 5th is also a 0, so i was misinformed.

The guitar I am referring to 00120428, so please excuse my mistake and thank you for setting me straight

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I stand corrected on the year.

My 2000 starts with 00 and I was told by gibson the first two were the year, however the 5th is also a 0, so i was misinformed.

The guitar I am referring to 00120428, so please excuse my mistake and thank you for setting me straight

Yes the 1st and 5th number are the year the 2nd, 3rd and 4th are the Julian Date it was stamped so the 12th of January, 2000.

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Yes the 1st and 5th number are the year the 2nd, 3rd and 4th are the Julian Date it was stamped so the 12th of January, 2000.

 

somehow they knew the model too from the serial, but idk how. If the op calls the 800 number maybe they can identify the model of this one. That is if still interested.

But the broken neck is good enough reason not to buy it.

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