Roach Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 what is the difference between baked, and torrified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 what is the difference between baked, and torrified? pretty sure they are the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-28 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 pretty sure they are the same thing. How Wood Is Torrefied Torrefaction Plus of Brandon, QC, explains that torrefaction is an alternative to treating woods with chemicals. The the process involves heating wood at a temperature of 190 to 240C in a torrefaction kiln at controlled atmosphere and low in oxygen. The length of the process, as well as the temperature degree sustained during a determined period, depends on the torrefied specie and the desired color. In addition, the company said this technology requires a pre-drying process using conventional kiln driers, to lower the moisture level between 6% and 10%. After that, the torrefaction kiln lowers the moisture level to 0%. Gibson Auditions Torrefied Maple for FretboardsFinally, Torrefaction says the wood is placed in a conditioning chamber where the temperature is gradually lowered by controlled steam injection. The moisture level of the product is increased between 3% and 6%, in order to give back to the wood its natural flexibility. This conditioning stabilizes the wood and allows better quality manufacturing, the company says. Potential interior and exterior uses of torrefied wood noted by Torrefaction include floors, stairs, mouldings and patio furniture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 How Wood Is Torrefied Torrefaction Plus of Brandon, QC, explains that torrefaction is an alternative to treating woods with chemicals. The the process involves heating wood at a temperature of 190 to 240C in a torrefaction kiln at controlled atmosphere and low in oxygen. The length of the process, as well as the temperature degree sustained during a determined period, depends on the torrefied specie and the desired color. In addition, the company said this technology requires a pre-drying process using conventional kiln driers, to lower the moisture level between 6% and 10%. After that, the torrefaction kiln lowers the moisture level to 0%. Gibson Auditions Torrefied Maple for FretboardsFinally, Torrefaction says the wood is placed in a conditioning chamber where the temperature is gradually lowered by controlled steam injection. The moisture level of the product is increased between 3% and 6%, in order to give back to the wood its natural flexibility. This conditioning stabilizes the wood and allows better quality manufacturing, the company says. Potential interior and exterior uses of torrefied wood noted by Torrefaction include floors, stairs, mouldings and patio furniture. Thanks Cliff Clavin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 How Wood Is Torrefied Torrefaction Plus of Brandon, QC, explains that torrefaction is an alternative to treating woods with chemicals. The the process involves heating wood at a temperature of 190 to 240C in a torrefaction kiln at controlled atmosphere and low in oxygen. The length of the process, as well as the temperature degree sustained during a determined period, depends on the torrefied specie and the desired color. In addition, the company said this technology requires a pre-drying process using conventional kiln driers, to lower the moisture level between 6% and 10%. After that, the torrefaction kiln lowers the moisture level to 0%. Gibson Auditions Torrefied Maple for FretboardsFinally, Torrefaction says the wood is placed in a conditioning chamber where the temperature is gradually lowered by controlled steam injection. The moisture level of the product is increased between 3% and 6%, in order to give back to the wood its natural flexibility. This conditioning stabilizes the wood and allows better quality manufacturing, the company says. Potential interior and exterior uses of torrefied wood noted by Torrefaction include floors, stairs, mouldings and patio furniture. and the difference between that and what they call baked? (explorer elite, vs 2018 explorer) http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2018/USA/Explorer-Elite.aspx http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2018/USA/Explorer-2018.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-28 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 and the difference between that and what they call baked? (explorer elite, vs 2018 explorer) http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2018/USA/Explorer-Elite.aspx http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2018/USA/Explorer-2018.aspx 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 and the difference between that and what they call baked? (explorer elite, vs 2018 explorer) http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2018/USA/Explorer-Elite.aspx http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2018/USA/Explorer-2018.aspx Gibson understand that 'Torrified' will only confuse Explorer players ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Ustain Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Well, the word "torrefied" sounds classier than "baked" (or "roasted," which is also common) and therefore should cost more. Tonally, torrefied wood has a tighter bass, while baked wood has a more prominent midrange, and roasted wood his high-end chime... depending on tenon length, of course. Just kidding. I wonder if there really is an industry standard for this process. Now, back to my experiments on torrefied Richlite and fossilized walrus Corian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roach Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 So torrefied, is what happens to you when you put more expensive weed in your bong. Thanks for helping me clear that up. But wait, the torrefied is on the lesser expensive model, somebody misinformed me here. Baked is a result of buying the more expensive one. Torrefied must be when you buy a guitar for cash and it has a cracked nut and paint damage so you take it back and get another from gibson almost a month later, that also has a cracked nut, then give up more money to get another guitar that they tell you will take 8 weeks to get it. I am torrefied it will be broken too and my money wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog86902 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I had a 2012 les Paul classic custom-baked maple board n one of the best av played on👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 i ordered the explorer elite, but nobody will tell me when to expect it. without making something up. It is baked. Gibson wont even tel me the dimensions or which pick guard I need to get to change it to a black one. The dealer is even less help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Thanks Cliff Clavin . The king. God, I love mr. Clavin. Did for the post office what... well, what Berkowitz did for the post office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 i ordered the explorer elite, but nobody will tell me when to expect it. without making something up. It is baked. Gibson wont even tel me the dimensions or which pick guard I need to get to change it to a black one. The dealer is even less help This is why I got frustrated after 15 weeks of waiting for my PRS CE24. I gave up in the end and was refunded, only to find it at the same shop when it was not listed as stocked. Have you paid a deposit or full amount? I had paid the whole PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 The king. God, I love mr. Clavin. Did for the post office what... well, what Berkowitz did for the post office. I have learned so much stuff from Cliff over the years. He ended up with Dianne too. Lucky girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 This is why I got frustrated after 15 weeks of waiting for my PRS CE24. I gave up in the end and was refunded, only to find it at the same shop when it was not listed as stocked. Have you paid a deposit or full amount? I had paid the whole PP. Actually I got the call late tonight, it is in the store now! I am picking it up tomorrow! Pic will follow. Any idea where i can get a black pick guard that will fit it? Gibson wouldn't tell me what I need to know because they don't offer pg's for these explorers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 plenty here http://www.wdmusic.com/pickguard_ex_20.html If that's too pricey, try Reverb or Ebay. I've seen them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I am picking it up tomorrow! I'm betting the nut is cracked/broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 plenty here http://www.wdmusic.c...uard_ex_20.html If that's too pricey, try Reverb or Ebay. I've seen them there. I am in the usa, and reverb does have a 76 re-issue but I understand that many of these have changed from year to year and the screw holes are not identical measurements even when appearing to be. I asked reverb to find the pdf file that the ad refers to to determine if it fits, or just take a chance they are only $15. For anyone else looking: https://reverb.com/item/4543110-custom-76-explorer-re-issue-style-guitar-pick-guard-3-ply-black @eraser... wow, you lose, now you owe me. The guitar is perfect. The sustain is incredible, burtbuckers 2 and 3 are so nice. Fits my style of music just right, and practically lets the guitar and amp play for me. Its like having a rackmounted talent pedal. I play a note and it doesn't stop unless i stop it, sustain for days... I am too happy to continue, (sniff sniff) tears of pure joy, (jumps up and down clapping like a teenage girl that just got tickets to the beatles in the 60's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I have learned so much stuff from Cliff over the years. He ended up with Dianne too. Lucky girl. Same, man. Before Cliff told me, I had no idea the Pyramids were, in fact, ancient post offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 The guitar is perfect. The sustain is incredible, burtbuckers 2 and 3 are so nice. Fits my style of music just right, and practically lets the guitar and amp play for me. Its like having a rackmounted talent pedal. I play a note and it doesn't stop unless i stop it, sustain for days... I am too happy to continue, (sniff sniff) tears of pure joy, (jumps up and down clapping like a teenage girl that just got tickets to the beatles in the 60's). Great! Glad you got such a good one. Not sure I'd want to attend the gig where you "sustain for days..." though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 I am in the usa, and reverb does have a 76 re-issue but I understand that many of these have changed from year to year and the screw holes are not identical measurements even when appearing to be. I asked reverb to find the pdf file that the ad refers to to determine if it fits, or just take a chance they are only $15. For anyone else looking: https://reverb.com/i...ard-3-ply-black @eraser... wow, you lose, now you owe me. The guitar is perfect. The sustain is incredible, burtbuckers 2 and 3 are so nice. Fits my style of music just right, and practically lets the guitar and amp play for me. Its like having a rackmounted talent pedal. I play a note and it doesn't stop unless i stop it, sustain for days... I am too happy to continue, (sniff sniff) tears of pure joy, (jumps up and down clapping like a teenage girl that just got tickets to the beatles in the 60's). Yea i love those burtbuckers hahahaha ya all know i meant burstbuckers but i thought id call myself out first. Ok look, if you have an explorer and need a pickguard, gibson tells me the 76 reissue is the exact pickguard used on the elite model and all the current models, but the reissue PG at reverb is NOT the correct one. I ended up taking a piece of maple and making my own PG. LOOKS GREAT... (The light dulled color, but it is the same color as the head and p/u rings), One day I will bevel the egdes, and will add clear coats, (to the pg only). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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