thetimecircus Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 There are no shareholders. Both these companies are privately held. Basically' date=' William (Bill) Mendello, owns and controls Fender, and Henry E. Juszkiewicz owns and controls Gibson. [/quote'] Even if there are only one or a few owners of these companies, these are shareholders whether a company is privately held or publicly traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtruchel Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I am new here, but I think that would suck for Fender to buy Gibson. I play Gibsons and Gibsons only. I used to play Fenders but most modern Fenders I've played are inferior to modern Gibsons in quality and design. This is a bad thing to be talking about IMHO. Especially since it's all speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltom Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think people who complain about Wal-Mart, et al driving the Mom and Pop stores out of business yet vote for political candidates who actually hurt Mom and Pop by artificially driving up labor costs and creating more and more red-tape for them to wade through is as ironic as people who have a "Free Tibet" bumper sticker next to their "Hillary" bumper sticker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think people who complain about Wal-Mart' date=' et al driving the Mom and Pop stores out of business yet vote for political candidates who actually hurt Mom and Pop by artificially driving up labor costs and creating more and more red-tape for them to wade through is as ironic as people who have a "Free Tibet" bumper sticker next to their "Hillary" bumper sticker. [/quote'] so you mean anyone who votes for Republicans or Democrats? and for the record, nothing is more ironic than people who have both a Dubyah sticker and a Jesus-Fish on their cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLiveSoundGuy Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 So would Fender be the republican or the democrat here? And I thought both companies were... are you ready for this... independent. I kill my self sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjay777 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think people who complain about Wal-Mart' date=' et al driving the Mom and Pop stores out of business yet vote for political candidates who actually hurt Mom and Pop by artificially driving up labor costs and creating more and more red-tape for them to wade through is as ironic as people who have a "Free Tibet" bumper sticker next to their "Hillary" bumper sticker. [/quote'] Best post of the whole thread. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmidt Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Valley Arts model, correct? Ignatius EDIT: My mistake; the Valley Arts models actually have Tele switches. This appears to be a partscaster based on the '72 Telecaster Deluxe. They came stock with humbuckers and with a Les Paul-type toggle switch as in the picture. I like the color of this one, by the way, although I have always found the Tele Deluxe a sort of Frankenstein hybrid of the Tele and the Lester--maybe a TeLes Paulcaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmidt Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Valley Arts model' date=' correct? Ignatius EDIT: My mistake; the Valley Arts models actually have Tele switches. This appears to be a partscaster based on the '72 Telecaster Deluxe. They came stock with humbuckers and with a Les Paul-type toggle switch as in the picture. I like the color of this one, by the way, although I have always found the Tele Deluxe a sort of Frankenstein hybrid of the Tele and the Lester--maybe a TeLes Paulcaster. [/quote'] Photoshopcaster .........................or a LesWashburncaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Photoshopcaster.........................or a LesWashburncaster You did that with Photoshop?? Wow! Well done! I bet you could put that shot on ebay and actually get some bids. Ignatius8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxworlds Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Well in case you did not hear the news, Gibson Guitar has announced a merger with the Danish company TC Group, the merger was announced at the NAMM show in January. I am not sure how that will effect the US manufacturing groups. I have heard rumors that Gibson is buying or preparing to buy a Canadian acoustic guitar company and will be manufacturing Gibson acoustics in Canada very shortly.. here is a link to the TC news item... http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/Gibson%20Guitar%20and%20TC%20Group%20to/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLiveSoundGuy Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Old News. http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1974 What's your take on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker69 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 when the hell did fender buy ovation? as far as i can see by the web info, kaman music corp. still owns ovation. unless fender bought kaman which means that they own hamer as well. i dont think that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLiveSoundGuy Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 when the hell did fender buy ovation? as far as i can see by the web info' date=' kaman music corp. still owns ovation. unless fender bought kaman which means that they own hamer as well. i dont think that is the case.[/quote'] It happened in 2007 Click Here for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker69 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 It happened in 2007 Click Here for more info. [/quote wow!! thanks for the info!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremboul Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 when companies get too big they become impersonal. If this acquisition takes place, pre-fender Gibsons will go up in value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 when companies get too big they become impersonal.If this acquisition takes place' date=' pre-fender Gibsons will go up in value.[/quote'] Have you looked at the bottom of the main Gibson.com page where it lists all the companies that Gibson owns? I suspect that Gibson already qualifies as too big by many people's standards. I have to admit that I am more than a bit concerned by Gibson's and Fender's recent run of purchasing other instrument companies. They are tending to over-consolidate, and that kills innovation in an industry. Ignatius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul6666 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 No offense, but chances are the quality control might go up a bit ; ) Just kidding lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemoon Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Fender killed Tacoma guitars when they bought them a few years ago. They were an amazing little independent guitar maker in Washington. They now suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This one goes to 11 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Please tell me when anyone wearing a suit & regularly using phrases like "strategic positioning", "enhanced portfolio" or "benefits to our customer base" ever truly gave a monkey's what the end user thought. If it puts cash in the shareholder's pocket, that's what talks. Anyone remember CBS Fender? AMF Harley-Davidson? Big conglomerates are the impersonal way of the world we live in, folks. IF Fender were to buy Gibson & its associated brood, I'd want to see what happened far more than I'd care what the PR b/s artists would have to say - and maybe I'd start saving for an Anderson Atom or PRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 where did you get your avatar from? very funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffmac Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I was in a local used guitar shop yesterday chatting with the owner. He is closing this weekend after 11 years in business (siting the Internet (eBay) as a main reason for business falling off). We talked about a lot of things, one being Fender's continued interest in buying Gibson. If Fender were to buy Gibson they would have a near monopoly on the musical instrument business. I would expect there would be changes at Gibson. I think you would see better marketing as, IMHO, Fender does a much better job of it. I wonder if Fender people would pay more attention to quality control in all aspects of production, including simple things, like more carefully checking an instrument before it is shipped and including model specific manuals on guitars like the ES-339 and Jimmy Page Custom. Who knows -- it could be a good thing or a bad thing. Maybe pre Fender Gibsons would be the ONLY ones we all wanted? Frankly I don't want a Fender guitar yet. I pick up a new Tele or a Strat and it just can't compare in any way to an LP Standard. But, that's just my subjective opinion. What do you guys think? They actually merging http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CFMQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fguitargear.org%2F2011%2F04%2F01%2Fbreaking-news-gibson-usa-to-purchase-fender-musical-instruments%2F&ei=jAdLU_SwCsqCyQHWxYCwBQ&usg=AFQjCNHTOVkKWr4YX9YMAIIv4v4Lc0LXXg&sig2=itOe79Y-GcVgVX5RC0tf0Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I was in a local used guitar shop yesterday chatting with the owner. He is closing this weekend after 11 years in business (siting the Internet (eBay) as a main reason for business falling off). We talked about a lot of things, one being Fender's continued interest in buying Gibson. If Fender were to buy Gibson they would have a near monopoly on the musical instrument business. I would expect there would be changes at Gibson. I think you would see better marketing as, IMHO, Fender does a much better job of it. I wonder if Fender people would pay more attention to quality control in all aspects of production, including simple things, like more carefully checking an instrument before it is shipped and including model specific manuals on guitars like the ES-339 and Jimmy Page Custom. Who knows -- it could be a good thing or a bad thing. Maybe pre Fender Gibsons would be the ONLY ones we all wanted? Frankly I don't want a Fender guitar yet. I pick up a new Tele or a Strat and it just can't compare in any way to an LP Standard. But, that's just my subjective opinion. What do you guys think? There's still some April foo's hangin around ... note the date on this announcement "April 1st" My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Fender might just learn something about building guitars a luthier would be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Fender killed Tacoma guitars when they bought them a few years ago. They were an amazing little independent guitar maker in Washington. They now suck. True dat. Tacoma used to be fine guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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