stevezapp Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Check out the 'Gibson' guitars this guy is trying to peddle (click each image to enlarge): - http://www.swapz.co.uk/swapz/721711/gibson_standard_american_les_pauls/ I have informed the site, and the 'swapper'. 100% sure he knows what he's doing, so I casually mentioned the consequences of owning/selling a counterfeit Gibson. When will these people learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmeds Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Yikes! I don’t think I’ve ever seen some of those colors on any Gibson LP. Still. As the saying goes: "A fool and his money are easily parted.” Caveat emptor (buyer beware) or more appropriately, shall we say: Caveat venditor –Let the seller beware! Play on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRom Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Link not found. They went into hiding - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 What was the deal? I mean what was the difference between this one and the other fake-selling idiots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jertum Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 This guy was selling about 8 of them as Gibson 'Made in USA' Les Pauls. They were horrible- weird pink/salmon finishes. The body shape was all wrong too. You never know, i suppose the guy could've bought them under the impression that they were genuine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevezapp Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 You never know' date=' i suppose the guy could've bought them under the impression that they were genuine...[/quote'] I'm not too sure... Below is the conversation I've been having with him today (original message at the bottom, then read upwards). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If they have a Gibson logo and aren't real Gibson guitars, they are illegal. The clue is in the price. You must have done a bulk purchase on that lot for a very low price. A real LP standard will cost you £1700 new. An official Gibson replica is an Epiphone and will cost you £350ish. A cheap copy will cost you £150. The fact you know that most fakes have three screws in the truss rod cover and incorrect logos indicate that you 'should' know how to spot a fake. So, this leads me to two possible conclusions: - a) You genuinely thought you were getting a bargain and thought that you knew how to spot a fake or, You knew they were fake, but thought they were good enough to pass off. There are at least three glaring reasons how I know they are fake, but wouldn't want to aid the counterfieter in building an accurate rip off. If you are option a), then I suggest you take them back and get your money back, and if the seller refuses tell them you will be reporting them to the police (they will help you). ----- Original Message ----- ok, but they say there legal and they have a very good atention to detail with the 2 bolt trus rod cover and angled gibson logo. ----- Original Message ----- Which ever website you got them from is scamming you. A licensed copy of a Gibson is an Epiphone. Get your money back sharpish. ----- Original Message ----- i checked the website and there licensed copy's designed by Gibson usa. i apologise and didn't have any intention of scamming anyone. sorry ----- Original Message ----- That's a nice bunch of fire wood you have there. Every single one of your 'Gibson' guitars is fake. It is a criminal offense to sell or posses a counterfeit Gibson guitar, and they WILL prosecute you. If by some chance you didn't know these where fake, take them back to where you got them from a demand a refund. ----- Original Message ----- i have a redish sun burst, a wood burst, and a white to green burst. all American Gibson les paul standards apart from the last one which is a super me whatever that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmeds Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hey Stevezapp, Either this guy does phenomenal business and sold out within the last 12 hours or you spooked him. Good riddance! Play On! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I think you might have scared this guy into hiding when you mentioned how cooperative the police are in these matters. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 WOW!!! That guy actually owns one of those hard to get SUPER MEs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 ok' date=' but they say there legal and they have a very good atention to detail with the 2 bolt trus rod cover and angled gibson logo. [/quote'] Just because of that... Im gonna have to vote for this option: :- You knew they were fake' date=' but thought they were good enough to pass off.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneguitar Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I agree, someone with that knowledge and then to bring it up in correspondence knows they are fake....... Good job in shutting this A-hole down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevezapp Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 The website admin messaged me and asked me how I knew they were fake, so I reeled of the three main indicators (bridge, body shape and colours). They were very appreciative and removed the listing immediately. I should have saved the pics before they were removed. They were awful, and TGod, when I saw the Super Me bit of the message, I let out a bit of pee, I laughed so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuff Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 If this bloke is from Kilmarnock he's back, but now calling them "gibson american standard lespaul licensed copys" link Go there and have a laugh - they are truly horrible! Stevezapp, presumably you're a member on that site. Would you like to recommend to the admin that they modify his listing to "pile of shite", or at least inform the lister that his information is perhaps still a tad untrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swmcv2007 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 The bright pink one and the semi-hollowbody one are hilariously bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevezapp Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 If this bloke is from Kilmarnock he's back' date=' but now calling them "gibson american standard lespaul licensed copys" link Go there and have a laugh - they are truly horrible! Stevezapp, presumably you're a member on that site. Would you like to recommend to the admin that they modify his listing to "pile of shite", or at least inform the lister that his information is perhaps still a tad untrue That's the chap. I've asked him to send me the link of the shop that he bought them from. I'll notify the site admin now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 "licensed copies" I hate those bastards... If you knew the call I just got you would laugh your @sses off (not guitar related but a scam anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevezapp Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 why not hold off and notify Gibson Cstmr Svs and let me play with him for a while and find out what he really knows..... Not a bad idea' date=' i'll drop em an email tonight. Here they are for anyone who hasn't seen them by the way... [img']http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg376/st4vros/4a2fd4506571f_1.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hey steve, is that a Slash sig and a slash's snakepit SUPER ME in there? a recon those are hard to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxboron Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 gief the green finish on a real gibson ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevezapp Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hey steve' date=' is that a Slash sig and a slash's snakepit SUPER ME in there? a recon those are hard to find [/quote'] Sweet - a Slash Super Me. I'll take two please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnastynebr Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I kind of like the green one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingarmadillo Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Wonder if that's a real case (put there for "credibility") or if they counterfitted the "Made in Canada" sticker too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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