DrJustice Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Regarding the baritone tunings. I tried some of that yesterday, using the VG-99 (a cracking contraption!). Major confusion ensued. I'm obviously not ready for that quite yet. I'll stick to standard tuning and grab my bass to cover the low growls for the time being... DJ -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Look at ALL the greats! See? Emotion! And then there's this Not exactly what I would call' date=' emotional. Showing facial emotion helps to better understand how/what people (guitarist/musicians) are feeling while they are playing, which in turn helps them better connect with their audiance. Now, I don't care how "emotional" Bucketheads "music" is, I'm just not into people who wear buckets on their heads (or masks for that matter). I've listened to A LOT of his music, even before I had ever seen him as Buckethead, and guess what? I still didn't like it. And, I'm not saying he's a bad guitarist, but his music does absolutely nothing for me. P.S. From a guy with "Gizz" in is user name? ALL insults will be taken lightly. I'm just sayin'. [/quote'] Nice new argument you've brought into the thread! Moral of the story is be a conformist and you're amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I just know that I like people who aren't affraid to show who they really are (live/in the studio). Yeah, it's about showing who they really are MUSICALLY and not what they look like. Maybe the mask helps BH express himself more because he's a shy person and might be too shy without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Regarding the baritone tunings. I tried some of that yesterday' date=' using the VG-99 (a cracking contraption!). Major confusion ensued. I'm obviously not ready for that quite yet. I'll stick to standard tuning and grab my bass to cover the low growls for the time being... DJ --[/quote'] It doesn't work at all on my electric but on my acoustic I thought it was fine and first but over time, with some songs, the strings were too buzzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Loaf do you really need to keep double/triple/quadruple posting? Just edit your post dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Loaf do you really need to keep double/triple/quadruple posting? Just edit your post dude.+1. FINALLY! Something we can both agree on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Regarding the baritone tunings. I tried some of that yesterday' date=' using the VG-99 (a cracking contraption!). Major confusion ensued. I'm obviously not ready for that quite yet. I'll stick to standard tuning and grab my bass to cover the low growls for the time being... DJ --[/quote'] What tuning did you use exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocidad Maximus Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 If it makes you feel any better, he's making faces underneath the mask. You might need to see a face to help you hear emotion, but most folks that like music for music don't. I don't give five ****s what you think of his music, but that's a damn idiotic argument. I hear Creed has a new album coming out. Maybe that would be more to your liking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 If it makes you feel any better' date=' he's making faces underneath the mask. You might need to see a face to help you hear emotion, but most folks that like music for music don't. I don't give five ****s what you think of his music, but that's a damn idiotic argument. I hear Creed has a new album coming out. Maybe that would be more to your liking?[/quote']I NEVER said that I thought his music was bad, just not my thing! It's NOT about "hearing" emotion, as I said before I can hear it just fine, but when you see it on an artist's face? It adds a WHOLE lot more depth/humanity to the music. What can I say, I'm just REALLY old school. Everyone says I'm a 40yr old trapped in a 27 year old body, and I'm probably one of the few people my age that owns/still listens to records (the vinyl kind). Hell, I don't even own ONE piece of music after 1985. Not that I don't listen to anything after '85, but I wouldn't own any of it. And, no I DON'T like Creed! Just for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJustice Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Re. baritone tuning experiments: What tuning did you use exactly? I used screwed up tuning - that's what I did! LOL! Tried again today and it works just fine with B,E,A,D,F#,B, which is 5 semitones down on all strings. With this I can, as expected, play as usual, only a perfect fourth down. I also tried B,E,A,D,G,B which I've seen mentioned as an alternative, but I found that with the different fingering on the 2nd string it wasn't worth it. I'd rather give up the familiarity with the notes on the G string (kind of irrelevant on a baritone anyway, I'd think). The conclusion has to be that a baritone is cool, and I'll definitely don't dismiss it. I may dabble with the VG-99 solution a bit more to get a feel for it - I might even want a real one in the future, although I ought to stick with standard tuning until I have built at least rudimentary skills with that O:)/ DJ -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJustice Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Re. baritone tuning experiments: It doesn't work at all on my electric but on my acoustic I thought it was fine and first but over time' date=' with some songs, the strings were too buzzy.[/quote']Was the problem with the electric that it was all buzzing? Did the intonation hold up on the acoustic? DJ -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Re. baritone tuning experiments: I used screwed up tuning - that's what I did! LOL! Tried again today and it works just fine with B' date='E,A,D,F#,B, which is 5 semitones down on all strings. With this I can, as expected, play as usual, only a perfect fourth down. --[/quote'] Yeah that's the way to go mate, no need to make things difficult for yourself. Now get cracking with the "Separate Sky" riffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzorge Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage. He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him BUCKETHEAD!!!! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Buckethead makes this bot happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I'll have my final say nd I'm gonna be reasonable... He's a great guitaist no doubt... I just don't get it.... Now.. please don't harrass me about this too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 You're good DAS44....you don't need to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Re. baritone tuning experiments: Was the problem with the electric that it was all buzzing? Did the intonation hold up on the acoustic? DJ -- The electric was pretty bad. The acoustic sounded fine at first but after playing for a while I noticed the strings were rumbling a little too much. Last time I tried The A tuning and Now I'm doing the B tuning and it's better but it doesn't sound as cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocidad Maximus Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I've only been skimming through your discussion, Loaf, but if you're tuning down and it doesn't sound right or won't stay in tune then you probably just need thicker strings. I tune to B all the time without trouble. No baritone guitar necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Yeah, my strings are pretty cheap and pretty thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzorge Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'll have my final say nd I'm gonna be reasonable... He's a great guitaist no doubt... I just don't get it.... Now.. please don't harrass me about this too Appreciate the honesty!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocidad Maximus Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 From what I've heard, here are the supposed specs of the signature model: - 10% larger body - All white hardware with white open coil pickups - 27.5 inch scale with 24 frets - 2 "Atari style" kill switches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 From what I've heard' date=' here are the supposed specs of the signature model: - 10% larger body - All white hardware with white open coil pickups - 27.5 inch scale with 24 frets - 2 "Atari style" kill switches [/quote'] Where did you hear that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look! Im guitarest! Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (Edit because it has zero substance, which was its intention) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look! Im guitarest! Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (Edit because it has zero substance, which was its intention) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocidad Maximus Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I hate to play "he-said-she-said", but I heard it from someone who claims to have talked to someone working at Gibson. I don't believe everything I hear, hence the "supposed", but the specs seem pretty logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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