Riverside Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 My Vintage Mahagony LP pleases me just fine except: There's something floating around inside! When I give it shake, I can hear what I think sounds like sawdust/shavings rattling around inside the body behind the bridge. Now the question - Can anyone suggest a method to coax these out, or do you think they're captured inside one or another "weight relief chamber"? Should I remove pickups/bridge/stopbar etc. and try to shake it out, or are those chambers sealed? Might I be hearing pickup wiring banging around in there? It doesn't effect the playability at all, so I might just try and forget about it, but, well, you know. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 yeah if your bothered about it remove the pickup and see what shakes out...might be some wood particles.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scozz Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I remember hearing this complaint with some of the very first chambered LPs. Complaints of something rattleing in one of the chambers. Someone said that something had broken off in the chamber, and that if it was possible to repair it, it would be a major deal. I do not know if this info is correct, just what I read on a forum. Do you know if you LP is chambered? Gibson started chambering in late 2006. What month was your guitar made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 It was made in October - and it's chambered. I remember seeing pictures somewhere of a chambered LP before the top got put on - I just can't remember if the chambers are open to any of the paths to the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 This pic is identified as an Epi - does anyone know if it's the same thing for Gibson? If so, it looks like I have a shot at it through the bridge pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 Oh well, no joy. I got the bridge pickup off, only to see a route into solid wood toward the bottom of the guitar. Toward the top, of course the route for the wiring was visible, but nothing near the source of the noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scozz Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I'd email Gibson if I were you and see what they suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Probably a chip of wood for the routing and/or chambering. Should have been caught in quality control of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 I'd email Gibson if I were you and see what they suggest. I did - let's see if they have an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushview Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 The chambers aren't accessible without removing the entire maple top. Maybe if you removed the neck pickup there'd be a small hole into the chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 The chambers aren't accessible without removing the entire maple top. Maybe if you removed the neck pickup there'd be a small hole into the chamber. Thanks - I just tried that, but the only opening visible from the neck pickup is part of the diagonal channel from the switch to the pots. Besides, I can't seem to shake the bits much past the bridge, even with the guitar pointed head-down. Shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You cannot reach the chambers from either cavity, but you could drill a hole into the control cavity or any of the cavities and that would worsen the problem a lot There's probably no way around it, but unless you are really shaking the guitar it shouldn't be an issue. I have one swiss cheesed and one chambered lesters and Ive never noticed any ratlings, but then again, I haven't tried shakin' em :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesBonfire Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 My 08' Studio VM has the exact same issue but it only does it when rotating back n forth...not when it shakes really. But I don't really care...it's not an issue unless ur jamming with it not plugged in, and shaking the guitar whilst doin so. I just figure its the lil Gibson fairy inside the guitar that makes it sound soooooo good....or ya..its a piece of wood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildobbin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Happended with my '08 Fireburst LP Studio too. I got lucky: took the pot control cover off the back & gave it a Hell of a good shake backside down & all the leftovers from the routering fell out. Pretty poor quality control for a thousand dollar guitar from a company like Gibson who make such a big deal about it being made in Nashville, TN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillybilly Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 boo to chambering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildobbin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 boo to chambering Makes 'em feedback like nothing else though ;-)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillybilly Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 thats what an es-XXX is for ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You cannot reach the chambers from either cavity' date=' but you could drill a hole into the control cavity or any of the cavities and that would worsen the problem a lot ;)[/quote']If you drilled into the chamber from the control cavity, and had access to a medical-style "sucker," you might be able to get it out. So, if you or someone you know is a dentist and doesn't mind a slightly different patient... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Do you have a drill press? If you can control the drilling precisely, maybe you could go in the back side nice and neat. Get another round cavity cover for the selector switch to close it up when you're done. Go in the upper side of the body above the control cavity - on the back side. That would put you directly in the chamber. If the offending piece is too large to come out through the hole, blast it with compressed air and bounce it around inside the chambered area until it chips and breaks into smaller pieces. That should help loosen anything else that might be ready to break loose as well. Call me crazy. Beats steaming the top until it comes un-glued from the body, then glueing it back together. I would just turn the amp up louder. =P~/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Stop shaking it and you won't hear the rattle any more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Is the warranty still good, give Gibson a call? Perhaps they might have a solution for you, it never hurts to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Stop shaking it and you won't hear the rattle any more... I think that's the way I'm gonna handle it. I sent Gibson an email - but it's only been a day or two, and besides that, I can't imagine they'll have anything to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Oh, I forgot to mention how cool (or not) it was to see the "Patent Applied For" stickers on the pickups. Is Gibson trying to rip themselves off? They should have a talk with Coke Zero guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Got a response from Gibson CS: Hello' date=' Thanks for writing, and sorry to hear of the issue with your guitar. If you are the original owner with a valid proof of purchase, we would be happy to set up a Return Authorization (RMA), and receive the instrument in for a warranty evaluation. Please call 1-800-444-2766 ext. 1 to arrange your RMA and receive shipping instructions. Or, if you prefer, I would be happy to set up your RMA and reply with instructions via email. Simply provide your full name, return shipping address, a contact phone number, and the serial number on the instrument. Thank you for the inquiry, and I hope this helps! [/quote'] So far, it seems like a pretty good CS response. We'll see what happens next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 If you drilled into the chamber from the control cavity' date=' and had access to a medical-style "sucker," you might be able to get it out. So, if you or someone you know is a dentist and doesn't mind a slightly different patient...[/quote'] That would actually be fun to watch, even if the operation didn't solve the problem:d/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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