Thundergod Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Ok, I didn't know these were available: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware,_parts/Electric_guitar:_Strap_buttons/Grover_Quick-release_Strap_Locks.html Are they the same as these but with a different brand on them (like those that are sold as fender but are made by schaller) http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware,_parts/Electric_guitar:_Strap_buttons/Schaller_Strap_SecurityLocks/Schaller_Strap_Security_Locks.html Are they the same system? Why does one cost some 2 cents less than the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 The Grovers sure look like Schallers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Wow they do look exactly the same. Patent infringement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Could be that Schaller makes them and brands them as Grover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Whirlpool / Kenmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Could be that Schaller makes them and brands them as Grover. States on the web page, "Grover Quick-release Strap Locks retainers and buttons will work with Schaller Strap Security Locks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yeah, I saw that. Doesn't mean they're made by Schaller though, just that they're compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yeah' date=' I saw that. Doesn't mean they're made by Schaller though, just that they're compatible.[/quote'] *aww* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 AXE, just noticed your signature... LMFAO, that's really funny and so true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 AXE' date=' just noticed your signature... LMFAO, that's really funny and so true... [/quote']Funny you do it all the time. :- Jk! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherrylester Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Those are the same as the schallers on my amer. deluxe strat- they lock fine, but they suck to get off! I think the dunlop straplocks rule. I use them on my les paul and my sg. They're so much easier to undo than the schallers. I got the schaller ones as a std feature on my amer. deluxe strat and was blown away by how much a pain in the *** it is to take take the strap off! With the dunlop, it's a simple push in, with the schalers, it's a grab and pull up then slide sideways to get it off. Even though they were free on the guitar, I'm close to buying dunlop locks anyway. I also prefer the ORIGINAL dunlop straplocks to the dual straplock. I have both and the original is smoother and quicker to deal with. Schaller makes awesome tuners though. I've had a set on my early 70's SG since '79 with no problems at all. They're better than grovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recsec Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I had dunlops on my LP and schallers on my tele and strat, the schallers are a little harder to get off the lock but they feel much more secure to me, every guitar now has schallers on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 99.94% of touring professionals can't be wrong. Schaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 99.94% of touring professionals can't be wrong. Schaller. Here... allow me to quote you[cool] :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 They're so much easier to undo than the schallers. ...with the schalers' date=' it's a grab and pull up then slide sideways to get it off.[/quote'] And this is a bad thing?:( I want my straplocks to be secure and to make it almost imposible to take the strap off!:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherrylester Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 You're right! That does sound kinda bad huh? But I didn't mean it takes away from the security aspect of it. I have never once had a dunlop straplock fail on me. I just hate fighting with the schallers to undo them. It takes 2 hands!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Schallers on everything but ES-335 and SG where the Dunlop work without poking youon the gut. The Schalers are more secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 There are some grover straplocks with different shapes and a different system... anyone tried those? I've seen some straplocks from a brand called "marvel" but haven't tried them... they are cheap, are they any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Arcadius Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Schallers on mine. It is a little tricky to unlock, but you get used to it and certainly can be done with one hand. Better safe than non-secure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 I have Schallers on all my guitars (even those I rarely use:-") and have never found them hard to unlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Pasted standard reply for Schaller vs. Dunlop: I've been using Schaller for years and have never had a problem. I do have a set of Dunlops on the strap I use with my SG Junior because the Schallers poke me in the gut since the strap attaches to the back of that guitar rather than the side. What I like about the Shallers is that they seem like a more secure design. Even if the release mechanism were to fail, the strap pin is still cupped inside the the lock on the strap. With the Dunlops, it's just a pin inside of a tube where, if the release mechanism failed, the pin could slip out. Schaller: Dunlop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 99.94% of touring professionals can't be wrong. 99.4% of touring professionals once used two-two prong cords too. Just sayin (For the record I have nothing against Schallers or those who use them. I think they are plenty secure and well-proven. I like the Dunlops better myself. My point is that sometimes an industry standard is the industry standard due to lack of options. Time will tell if a better mousetrap can be or has been built.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I have Schallers on all my guitars (even those I rarely use:-") and have never found them hard to unlock. +1 If you have a hard time unlocking a Schaller then you probably shouldn't even be playing guitar. I'm just Sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 +1 If you have a hard time unlocking a Schaller then you probably shouldn't even be playing guitar. I'm just Sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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