Rocker Ass Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hi, guys I was wondering which is more worthwhile to buy a Gibson Les Paul Standard or a ibanez steve vai jem 7v? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 worthwhile? depends on you. i personally would never ever consider an ibanez. buts lot of other people like them.play them all and buy what fits you best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Les Paul, of course. What do the guys in the Ibanez forum tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Out of those two I'd choose the Jem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneguitar Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 No way Gibson is the ONLY choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdown Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi' date=' guys I was wondering which is more worthwhile to buy a Gibson Les Paul Standard or a ibanez steve vai jem 7v?[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 No way Gibson is the ONLY choice. Ever played a high-end Ibanez? You'd have to spend over $10,000 on a Gibson to reach that build quality. Those particular Japanese luthiers take immense pride in their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 :) Does Ibanez make a Les Paul Standard? I thought the lawsuits put a stop to all that back in the seventies - at least in Japan. :) My point is that the guitars are very different. I know Ibanez makes some great stuff, but it's apples/oranges. What do you WANT? I'm guessing the Les Paul guys (like in the Gibson forum) will recommend a Les Paul. Go to the Ibanez forum, I doubt you'll hear anybody compare a Les Paul favorably to "their" guitar. I'm sure you'll see "low-end" Ibanez guys willing to put their $200 treasure up against any Gibson made. "My (Insert Chinese piece of sh!t here) is 100 times better than those overpriced junky American guitars!" Perspective is everything. And a player who doesn't have the decision sealed in his head should probably save his money. Or do as I have, and buy one of everything - problem solved. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Ever played a high-end Ibanez? You'd have to spend over $10' date='000 on a Gibson to reach that build quality. Those particular Japanese luthiers take immense pride in their work.[/quote'] I agree. A high end Ibanez is an amazing instrument. It could easily go toe to toe with any guitar on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyExitEmergency Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Gibson Les Paul hands down.... although you are posting in the Gibson forums so I am probably slightly biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Paul Fanatic Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 It depends on what style of music I'm playing, if I'm listening to Vai then absolutely a Jem 7v (For The Love Of God) hint hint hint, only because of the scale length and the number of strings 7 duh. So yeah my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I agree. A high end Ibanez is an amazing instrument. It could easily go toe to toe with any guitaron the market. I agree. Now if it was a les paul custom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upl8tr Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi' date=' guys I was wondering which is more worthwhile to buy a Gibson Les Paul Standard or a ibanez steve vai jem 7v?[/quote'] Hi Rocker ***, I get the feeling that this is not a serious question, I mean posting here is hardly likely to get you an unbiased answer, you wouldn’t seriously expect one in that same way that you wouldn’t get or expect one in an Ibanez forum. (I don’t think so at any rate) But just in case you are being serious then perhaps this bit of advice will help. With guitars just like most other things in life, you reach a point of diminishing returns, i.e. a £2000 guitar may well be 10 times better than a £200 guitar, however a £3000 guitar will almost certainly be no better than a £2000 guitar in either build quality or components. therefore it really should be about personal preference and choice. The Jem and LPs are roughly the same cost in money and are equal in quality (build and components) so like everyone else here will consistently advise you, play them both and use your own judgment, you are the one playing it and you are the one spending the cash on it therefore you should be the one that makes the decision. One caveat I would like to add is that as far as I am aware, the gibbo will almost certainly hold its 2nd hand value better than the Jem, this should not really influence you when buying such an expensive instrument as you should be buying it to keep, but it is worth taking into consideration if you think you may not be investing in it for the long run. Let us know what you decide, and post some pics[biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The Jem and LPs are roughly the same cost in money and are equal in quality (build and components) Depends what LP you're talking about. If it's a custom shop model, then yes. A regular USA standard, then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upl8tr Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Depends what LP you're talking about. If it's a custom shop model' date=' then yes. A regular USA standard, then no.[/quote'] Hi mcmurray Actually you’ll probably be surprised to hear that I totally agree with you as I have Japanese guitars that blow my Gibbo’s out of the water in every way, build and quality of components, looks and finish, however when it comes down to it, that will always be considered to be purely personal opinion. And where Les Pauls are concerned, if the les Paul had a warped neck 1 pick up missing and no frets or jack plug input socket you would still have people argue that the LP was better than the Jap guitar, just because it is, - no other reason offered!. So, in the spirit of fairness I suggested that a Jem and a standard LP are equal in build quality, that way if he demo’s them side by side he should be able to make up his own mind whether that’s a true statement or not. Plus, if I were to say that he’d need to spend x-amount of thousands extra on the Gibbo to get the same quality as the jem then that would be just the same as saying buy the jem which I would never do as it really should be his decision. Btw, just had a thought as I was posting this, that you may actually be talking about 2nd hand value, if so, then I don’t know - I can only guess from what I see on eBay and the like, and would have to say that as far as I can tell the Gibbo will deffo hold its value better. Regs, Upl8tr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneguitar Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Played them and forgot about them, not up to par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1500 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I recently sold a Jem 777. Beautiful guitar, plays well but I felt the guitar itself lacked tone. It's good if your into a lot of effects and processing. But for straight tone a LP is like no other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketbot Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Fortunately I am lucky enough to have both!! The Ibanez is a custom made to order for me Herc Fede Swirl DNA Copy. I used to have a Jem7VWH & this is better!! especially with BKP Warpigs in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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